Dead or alive

[chewy]

Some may have been following my post from earlier this year. Here is the question dead or alive and leave it.

After 2 and a half months and spear pulling once a week, the spear finally came out. However the fronds and roots still look good. Dig it up or leave it is the question.

[JLM]

That’s difficult. Fronds can remain green for several months to years after death.
 

I would honestly leave it alone and see what happens, nature can sometimes perform miracles, but that palm looks done for to me. 
 

Let others chime in, get more insight from others before you make a decision.

[chewy]

Thanks man,

Unfortunately I feel I know the same

My other 3 are doing great though, so small win

[Allen]

I would still leave it.  I would cut off any trunk or fibers above the green fronds toy help the sun dry it out.  If the trunk feels mushy when squeezing it I might even trunk cut.

[chewy]

30 minutes ago, Allen said:

I would still leave it.  I would cut off any trunk or fibers above the green fronds toy help the sun dry it out.  If the trunk feels mushy when squeezing it I might even trunk cut.

Trunk does not feel mushy at all

[Merlyn]

@chewy I'd probably take scissors and snip off the fibers near the crown too, sunlight is a great disinfectant!  Have you tried the hydrogen peroxide treatment in the crown?  I typically do H2O2 and follow up with Daconil on any bud rots.

[Las Palmas Norte]

With the long petioles, it's splayed out in an unusual fashion. Typically spear pull is most prominent in late winter thru early spring and not late July. Personally. I'd leave it. This is the growing season so growth should be evident but may not show for a few weeks after the center growth was originally compromised.

[chewy]

On 7/24/2024 at 12:57 PM, Merlyn said:

@chewy I'd probably take scissors and snip off the fibers near the crown too, sunlight is a great disinfectant!  Have you tried the hydrogen peroxide treatment in the crown?  I typically do H2O2 and follow up with Daconil on any bud rots.

Just cut some of the fibers back now, will put some peroxide down there.

[Alberto]

You have also avoid that rain water can enter the gaping hole ....

[chewy]

On 7/24/2024 at 12:57 PM, Merlyn said:

@chewy

 

[chewy]

38 minutes ago, Alberto said:

You have also avoid that rain water can enter the gaping hole ....

I will put one of those fancy Margherita umbrellas on it with the tooth pick lol.

Just kidding, I will figure something out to put over it

[RFun]

Better off to leave it than to mess with it.

[chewy]

The roots are in good condition and growing. I am just totally confused on this one

[Las Palmas Norte]

On 7/22/2024 at 11:45 AM, chewy said:

... After 2 and a half months and spear pulling once a week, the spear finally came out. ...

What would ever encourage you to do this?

[chewy]

15 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

What would ever encourage you to do this?

No growth, kept trying to see if it was dead or alive..... Even now I don't know. I either need to dig it out or leave it and I am still on the fence of what to do. Currently I am leaving it in the ground to see if there is any growth.

[Scott W]

So I have two Pindos that were field dug and transplanted nearly two years ago that had multiple spear pulls, even after treatment.   One really started to turn for the worse so I did a crown cut and they are now growing again. 

Could be worth a shot if treatment doesn't work...

 

[chewy]

 

On 7/30/2024 at 11:17 AM, Scott W said:

So I have two Pindos that were field dug and transplanted nearly two years ago that had multiple spear pulls, even after treatment.   One really started to turn for the worse so I did a crown cut and they are now growing again. 

Could be worth a shot if treatment doesn't work...

 

Might be worth looking at, I am hoping to see some positive signs this growing season. The roots are showing nice new growth (white roots). I cut back some more of the fibers but I am as low as I can go currently.

[chewy]

On 7/30/2024 at 11:17 AM, Scott W said:

So I have two Pindos that were field dug and transplanted nearly two years ago that had multiple spear pulls, even after treatment.   One really started to turn for the worse so I did a crown cut and they are now growing again. 

Could be worth a shot if treatment doesn't work...

 

Here are my other trees that are growing unbelievably this year, a new spear every week at least.

[JRVL]

@chewy Hey I think we talked on my thread when mine trachys were having a similar issue. For what it's worth mine got quite worse and I ordered replacements. I believe my initial issue was both overwatering and using a sprinkler. I had some good roots but a lot of rotten ones and the bulb was rotten.  Once the replacements arrived I tried my hand at trunk cutting. I kept going all the way down until it became clear there was no surviving material. Mine looked like yours at first but the fronds were also dying very quickly on mine. 

 

I seem to have saved my sylvestris with the daconil and hydrogen peroxide method though, so you can try that if you just to be sure.