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Sabal left for dead, now sprouting!

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A small Sabal that I had left for dead because after last winter’s cold, the entire center pulled out and the remaining hole is black with mildew, is now sprouting!  A good lesson in not digging them up too quickly. 

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Which species is it? 

2 hours ago, ntxpalms said:

A small Sabal that I had left for dead because after last winter’s cold, the entire center pulled out and the remaining hole is black with mildew, is now sprouting!  A good lesson in not digging them up too quickly. 

Very nice Bill!  In the future you can try a trunk cut shortly after the freeze/spear-pull to get you started a little quicker.  I did this successfully to 4 of my palms after February 2021 and @Allenposted on a similar experience with his palmetto.  Check out the details in the posts since May 4.

 

Jon Sunder

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On 7/14/2024 at 7:12 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

Which species is it? 

Sabal palmetto

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On 7/14/2024 at 7:15 PM, Fusca said:

Very nice Bill!  In the future you can try a trunk cut shortly after the freeze/spear-pull to get you started a little quicker.  I did this successfully to 4 of my palms after February 2021 and @Allenposted on a similar experience with his palmetto.  Check out the details in the posts since May 4.

 

Here is a robusta in Houston that the lawn guys thought was dead, cut it down almost to the ground, and it sprouted.   

 

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6 minutes ago, ntxpalms said:

Here is a robusta in Houston that the lawn guys thought was dead, cut it down almost to the ground, and it sprouted.   

 

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That looks like a Sabal also.  I don't see any petiole thorns or cottony fibers that Washingtonia have.  But they do come back well from a trunk cut too!

Jon Sunder

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21 hours ago, ntxpalms said:

Sabal palmetto

I had one planted oh, 12 years or so ago. Each winter it would knock it down more extensively than the previous. After 3 or 4 years of the repetitive winter beatings, it finally succumbed.

My Tifton Hardy Palmetto did the same thing after the winter of 2018  . I noticed that the fronds were discolored and when I pulled on them  the entire center pulled out and left a 1" + diameter hole  . I thought it was completely rotten deep in the hole  but later noticed growth coming out and now it's a healthy and trunking . 

Will

 

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Yes, it’s amazing.  The entire center pulled out of this one and left a huge hole. Now green leaves are emerging. Here’s an updated picture. IMG_0425.thumb.jpeg.75f420e102ace873fba9295a40af1be0.jpeg

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On 7/16/2024 at 7:35 PM, Fusca said:

That looks like a Sabal also.  I don't see any petiole thorns or cottony fibers that Washingtonia have.  But they do come back well from a trunk cut too!

I dont think it’s a Sabal.  I think it’s a Washingtonia robusta. Here’s an updated photo. 

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On 7/16/2024 at 7:35 PM, Fusca said:

That looks like a Sabal also.  I don't see any petiole thorns or cottony fibers that Washingtonia have.  But they do come back well from a trunk cut too!

 

On 7/14/2024 at 5:11 PM, ntxpalms said:

A small Sabal that I had left for dead because after last winter’s cold, the entire center pulled out and the remaining hole is black with mildew, is now sprouting!  A good lesson in not digging them up too quickly. 

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Looks good.  Another example of why you should just leave the palm be (unless it is a safety hazard).

18 hours ago, ntxpalms said:

I dont think it’s a Sabal.  I think it’s a Washingtonia robusta. Here’s an updated photo. 

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Thanks for posting the updated photo.  You've convinced me - definitely not a Washingtonia.  I zoomed in and still see no thorns on the old leaf based or existing fronds.  Look at the hastula - that's what convinced me.  Below are two photos I just took - the first is what it should look like on a Washingtonia with a small triangle shape.  Note how high up the thorns go up the petiole.

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Here's the hastula on my Sabal mexicana with an elongated hastula similar to the one in your photo.

 

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Jon Sunder

On 7/20/2024 at 7:14 PM, ntxpalms said:

I dont think it’s a Sabal.  I think it’s a Washingtonia robusta. Here’s an updated photo. 

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110% a sabal. 

Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, Butia odorataBxJ, 4 BxSChamaerops humilis, 1 Chamaedorea cataractarum, 1 Chamaedorea elegans, 1 Chamaedorea microspadix1 Chamaedorea radicalis1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis2 Phoenix roebelenii, 1 Phoenix sylvestris, Ravenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudana, Sabal palmetto, 1 Sabal minor, 2 Syagrus romanzoffiana, Trachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 37

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The Leaflets that point out a bit is only a thing that sabals do and a few other species i think 10000% a sabal

-Cfa- Humid Subtropical Hot Summers Mild Winters- in Lexington and Kissimmee __ -Cfb- Subtropical Highland Warm Summers Mild Winters- in SW VA

-Lexington KY Palms: In ground (4)-Musa Basjoo👍 (2)-Majesty Palms👍 (1)-Pindo palm☠️ (20+)-Sabal minor mccurtain👍  The pindo and majesty will be protected when needed. Germinating Sabal Minor ‘Razorback’ or Arkansas

-Kissimmee FL whew (3)-Majesty Palms👍 (3)-Bottle Palms☠️ (4)-Foxtail Palms☠️ (1)-Sabal Palmetto👍 (1)-Clump of Bird of Paradise👍

-Recent Lows __3.8F 25’-26’__-6F 24’-25’__16.8F 23’-24’__2F 22’-23’__.     ☠️=Dead 👍=Alive

On 7/16/2024 at 8:35 PM, Fusca said:

That looks like a Sabal also.  I don't see any petiole thorns or cottony fibers that Washingtonia have.  But they do come back well from a trunk cut too!

Agree. S.p or S.m

Always remember if the spear pulls and it the destruction doesn't go too deeply, it still has a shot.

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