Dypsis lastelliane or Dypsis leptocheilos

[bubba]

Redneck or Teddy Bear?

[tim_brissy_13]

C leptocheilos. 

[peachy]

It is a very sad looking Teddy Bear.

Peachy

[Billeb]

3 hours ago, peachy said:

It is a very sad looking Teddy Bear.

Peachy

Yep. This is the reason I don’t have one. They look so cool when young but as soon as they get taller and become exposed or breach thru canopy……trashed.
 

They grow so fast you could almost just plan on yanking it out after it gets a few feet of clear trunk and plant another. 
 

-dale 

[bubba]

These interesting palms are not well represented in this area. The entire Dypsis clan is generally underrepresented, which is unfortunate.

That stated, as meager as this specimen looks, I like these palms and would like to see more in this area.

[Hurricanepalms]

The best looking teddy bear I have ever seen in Florida was under very high canopy 45’ and almost completely protected from wind. The crown was incredible and almost all the leaves were in nearly perfect condition (wish I had a picture). Here is a picture of one of my two rednecks and I just removed a nearby tree so it has been getting a bit beaten by winds. 

[bubba]

Really enjoy the distinctive coloring of the crownshaft of these palms. I see these are no longer Dypsis but now Chrysalidocarpus!

Also, the distinctive almost white trunk is something foreign in large order in this area. I have seen this with some specimens here but it is rare. I do not know what causes the lack of the distinctive trunk in this area. Is it the high humidity?

[Hurricanepalms]

@bubba my theory on the lack of lasting coloration on the trunks here is the intensity of the sunlight we receive . The ones I have seen growing in the shade retain those traits longer than the ones I have seen in full sun. 

[Brian]

I have three that seem to do okay in the intense coastal sun of west coast Mexico however they definitely had more color when they were smaller. I also noticed today that they don’t look as good with the inflorescence scares. 
 

[Looking Glass]

6 hours ago, bubba said:

These interesting palms are not well represented in this area. The entire Dypsis clan is generally underrepresented, which is unfortunate.

That stated, as meager as this specimen looks, I like these palms and would like to see more in this area.

The few I see, generally look pretty good down here.   Especially if they are reasonably taken care of, get a break from the sun, and get a little wind protection.   Mine have grow fast, blasted by sun and exposed to wind, but their thin fragile leaflets can easily get beat up under these conditions.  

 

[bubba]

Looking Glass’s appear to have the qualities (white, well defined trunk definition) that generally seem missing in South Florida. That is certainly hopeful. I guess time will tell. Brian’s are also attractive. Hurricane’s are in the early hopeful stage.

Viewing examples on Palmpedia, the Southern California and Hawaiian appear to be top of the class followed by Australia. The Singapore example seems to lose the white coloring of the trunk that makes this so attractive to me. The outlier appears to be Sri Lanka ( perhaps heavy canopy?) This seems to present high humidity as a strong factor that mitigates the attractive qualities in this palm.

 

[DoomsDave]

@bubba as duly noted that's a Teddy Bear, and I'll bet it'll look a lot better with some extra water.

Not to pick a fight with my fellow California Palmas Compadres, but I think Teddies rock the house here, though I will concede that they're a bit fussy about habitat. I've noted that they don't seem to like being near the beach. OR being in Hawaii!

Here’s one in the center taken from my Roof of Orthopedic Danger.

 

Here’s another shot, all aflame in the westering, festering setting sun. There's actually two palms, but they're so close together (my bad planting) that it's hard to tell.

[DoomsDave]

8 hours ago, Billeb said:

Yep. This is the reason I don’t have one. They look so cool when young but as soon as they get taller and become exposed or breach thru canopy……trashed.
 

They grow so fast you could almost just plan on yanking it out after it gets a few feet of clear trunk and plant another. 
 

-dale 

Yeah, have to concede they don't look so hot near the beach. Or in Hawaii! A strange reversal of fate . . . .

BUT!

Maybe try some lastellianas? Your climate might be better for them; Hawaii's certainly is! Those are seriously mouthwateringly gorgeous. Might be thirsty though, but I think worth it. The way you tell when they're small is that "lasties" have a heel; teddies don't.

[D. Morrowii]

Heres my little guy. Hoping to see a bit of trunk this year.

[Looking Glass]

7 minutes ago, D. Morrowii said:

Heres my little guy. Hoping to see a bit of trunk this year.

I’d guess you are 1-1.5 years behind mine.  You’ll have a few rings shortly.  

[DoomsDave]

13 minutes ago, D. Morrowii said:

Heres my little guy. Hoping to see a bit of trunk this year.

 

4 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

I’d guess you are 1-1.5 years behind mine.  You’ll have a few rings shortly.  

When they trunk they TRUNK, expletive in all caps, holy cow, bull and calf they just rocket up there. I've got some out in front to make canopy.

One thing they seem to like is clay soil, I think because it holds water and nutrients.

[D. Morrowii]

13 minutes ago, Looking Glass said:

I’d guess you are 1-1.5 years behind mine.  You’ll have a few rings shortly.  

Cant wait!

8 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

 

When they trunk they TRUNK, expletive in all caps, holy cow, bull and calf they just rocket up there. I've got some out in front to make canopy.

One thing they seem to like is clay soil, I think because it holds water and nutrients.

Mostly sand here but the water table is only a couple of feet down. 

[DoomsDave]

1 hour ago, D. Morrowii said:

Cant wait!

Mostly sand here but the water table is only a couple of feet down. 

Water a bit at a time frequently.

[Billeb]

3 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

 

 

 

@DoomsDave yours look perfect! If they always looked like that, I’d probably have a few. Most I’ve seen when mature look no bueno. 
 

Keep doing what your doing. 
 

-dale 

[DoomsDave]

3 minutes ago, Billeb said:

@DoomsDave yours look perfect! If they always looked like that, I’d probably have a few. Most I’ve seen when mature look no bueno. 
 

Keep doing what your doing. 
 

-dale 

Thank you!

I think it’s a combo of conditions and care.

Try to find a lastelliana if you can. If it looks as good in your garden as in Hawaii it’s gonna be gorgeous!

[DoomsDave]

Here’s my biggest recent bouncing baby, about 7 feet overall gonna trunk soon and we’ll have liftoff.

 

With the Towering Teddies watching over them from the other side of the house.

 

[DoomsDave]

@Jim in Los Altos have you tried any Teddies? Bet they'd rock your house, too!

[BS Man about Palms]

On 6/13/2024 at 7:45 AM, Hurricanepalms said:

The best looking teddy bear I have ever seen in Florida was under very high canopy 45’ and almost completely protected from wind. The crown was incredible and almost all the leaves were in nearly perfect condition (wish I had a picture). Here is a picture of one of my two rednecks and I just removed a nearby tree so it has been getting a bit beaten by winds. 

Great looking lastelliana! A harder grow here in So cal than the leptochelios. 

[Jim in Los Altos]

4 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

@Jim in Los Altos have you tried any Teddies? Bet they'd rock your house, too!

Dave, I planted a one gallon in full sun earlier this spring. It’s handling the sun well. It did well all winter outside while still potted. 

[DoomsDave]

29 minutes ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Dave, I planted a one gallon in full sun earlier this spring. It’s handling the sun well. It did well all winter outside while still potted. 

Good!

You might have conditions like mine, more or less, which they seem to like.

[Jim in Los Altos]

18 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Good!

You might have conditions like mine, more or less, which they seem to like.

It’s not much to look at at this point but I’m hoping it will be in a few years. All day full sun shows in its yellowish fronds but it’s actively growing. 
 

[Looking Glass]

I find these guys to be piglets, relatively speaking.  They seem to want a lot of water and fertilizer here, and also get yellow and frizzled in the oldest leaves without a lot of extra K-Mg on top of that.   With all that and the water they can handle full Florida sun at a younger age than many pinnate palms, without it, they get yellow and brown.  

[DoomsDave]

4 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

It’s not much to look at at this point but I’m hoping it will be in a few years. All day full sun shows in its yellowish fronds but it’s actively growing. 
 

They seem like the kind of babies that start off in the shade then kind of explode into the canopy.