Hi everyone,

I recently bought this seedling and I was wondering if anyone else is growing this hybrid.

I would love to see how it would look over time.

 

 

I don't have it but princeps "new form" look like stretched out princeps. I would imagine this cross to look very similar to pure princeps but maybe grow faster.

On 5/31/2024 at 10:19 PM, Flow said:

I don't have it but princeps "new form" look like stretched out princeps. I would imagine this cross to look very similar to pure princeps but maybe grow faster.

Thats exactly what I was hoping for, the white backs/hardiness of the Princeps and the growth speed/large palmate leaves of the new form.  I also got a new form and princeps about the same age, maybe its interesting to keep them together to notice the differences.

Keep sharing updated pictures over time!

I have a male Nainital and the Green Form Princeps that I'm hoping is a female . That might possibly make for a really pretty palm  with good hardiness . I'm just waiting to see if my Princeps is a female . Should be evident next year or the next as big as it's getting .

Will

 

My Green Form Princeps below :

 

 

The male Nainital is right behind the Princeps 

44 minutes ago, WSimpson said:

I have a male Nainital and the Green Form Princeps that I'm hoping is a female . That might possibly make for a really pretty palm  with good hardiness . I'm just waiting to see if my Princeps is a female . Should be evident next year or the next as big as it's getting .

 

Thanks for sharing, that would be another very promising palm! A few years back I ordered some Nainital x Princeps seeds from Victor Silver, but these unfortunately didnt geminate for me. So in the same order of the new form x princeps I also ordered a Kumaon x Princeps seedling (image below).  I think the Kumaon is quite similar to the Nainital. I'll keep you guys posted about the progress of my princeps hybrids.

20 minutes ago, Stefanus said:

Thanks for sharing, that would be another very promising palm! A few years back I ordered some Nainital x Princeps seeds from Victor Silver, but these unfortunately didnt geminate for me. So in the same order of de new form x princeps I also ordered a Kumaon x Princeps seedling (image below).  I think the Kumaon is quite similar to the Nainital. I'll keep you guys posted about the progress of my princeps hybrids.

 

20 minutes ago, Stefanus said:

 

 

20 minutes ago, Stefanus said:

 

 

What does a large palm of  the " New Form Princeps "  look like  ? I know of the silver form and my green form , but I don't know about the " new form " . I'd  like to see a picture . I just saw that it is Kumaon and Princeps .Keep us posted on how it looks over time . 

What I do know is that the fronds on my Green Form are beautiful . That form with the stoutness and hardiness of a Nainital might be the Holy Grail of hardy palms . And possibly other hybrids , as you mentioned , would too  be  a hardy palm with exceptionally beautiful fronds ? 

Maybe I'll give you seed of my Nainital / Princeps and you give me seed from your Kumaon /Princeps and we'll make a hybrid of those when they are mature ?

Will

10 hours ago, WSimpson said:

What does a large palm of  the " New Form Princeps "  look like  ? I know of the silver form and my green form , but I don't know about the " new form " . I'd  like to see a picture . I just saw that it is Kumaon and Princeps .Keep us posted on how it looks over time . 

What I do know is that the fronds on my Green Form are beautiful . That form with the stoutness and hardiness of a Nainital might be the Holy Grail of hardy palms . And possibly other hybrids , as you mentioned , would too  be  a hardy palm with exceptionally beautiful fronds ? 

Maybe I'll give you seed of my Nainital / Princeps and you give me seed from your Kumaon /Princeps and we'll make a hybrid of those when they are mature ?

Will

I don't have a picture of a mature New form myself but I came across this image in the past. http://www.palmvrienden.net/forums/download/file.php?id=54436 Its has larger fronts and a pretty white backsides too.

The Kumaon or Princeps that I've got myself are still seedlings, so to be able to collect seeds it will take aleast 15 years

 

 

Here an overview of my Princeps hybrid seedlings, I'll try keep tracking their growth on this thread.

Wag x Prin are turning out to be good looking palms.  Back of the leaves are very blue.  Tops are blueish.  Looks better stretched out a bit planted in a shady spot.

 

Shady w  x p

Sunny w x p 

5 hours ago, Joe NC said:

Wag x Prin are turning out to be good looking palms.  Back of the leaves are very blue.  Tops are blueish.  Looks better stretched out a bit planted in a shady spot.

 

Shady w  x p

Sunny w x p 

Thank you for sharing, a few of the nicer specimens, lovely! Haven't found that much photos of larger princeps hybrids yet. I agree that the crown often will be more impressive on shadier spots, I've seen it in Italy where those were growing in the forests. 

On 6/2/2024 at 8:25 PM, WSimpson said:

I have a male Nainital and the Green Form Princeps that I'm hoping is a female . That might possibly make for a really pretty palm  with good hardiness . I'm just waiting to see if my Princeps is a female . Should be evident next year or the next as big as it's getting .

Will

 

My Green Form Princeps below :

 

 

The male Nainital is right behind the Princeps 

 

On 6/2/2024 at 9:05 PM, Stefanus said:

Thanks for sharing, that would be another very promising palm! A few years back I ordered some Nainital x Princeps seeds from Victor Silver, but these unfortunately didnt geminate for me. So in the same order of the new form x princeps I also ordered a Kumaon x Princeps seedling (image below).  I think the Kumaon is quite similar to the Nainital. I'll keep you guys posted about the progress of my princeps hybrids.

I'm sorry this nanital x princeps didn't d well for you.. They were stubbornly slow to germinate, and took 18 months for me....longer than anything except pure princeps for me, but the seedlings I now have are seriously attactive palms with small compact leave like princeps.

On 6/20/2024 at 10:52 PM, Vic said:

 

I'm sorry this nanital x princeps didn't d well for you.. They were stubbornly slow to germinate, and took 18 months for me....longer than anything except pure princeps for me, but the seedlings I now have are seriously attactive palms with small compact leave like princeps.

Oh wasn't expecting the seeds to germinate after 1,5 year, I probaly was not patient enough.. good lesson!

A year later, and after recovering from a scale infestation, here are some updated pictures. It’s already starting to get a bit whitish on the petioles. The last picture shows a comparison between this hybrid and a regular Fortunei of about the same age.

New pot was needed.

1 hour ago, Stefanus said:

New pot was needed.

Very nice. It looks healthy, but it looks like it is stretching for light. Is it kept in a shady spot? Or am I just getting the wrong idea from the photo?

This should be a beautiful palm as it grows.

35 minutes ago, Ben G. said:

Very nice. It looks healthy, but it looks like it is stretching for light. Is it kept in a shady spot? Or am I just getting the wrong idea from the photo?

This should be a beautiful palm as it grows.

Yes, it has really stretched petioles, no idea why. It is positioned in quite a light spot, and all the other Trachycarpus seedlings next to it are like half the height.