Jubaea Chilensis -query

[The Converted]

Spring finally appears to have arrived here in SE UK,  after a very wet, very grey and very long winter....

Luckily, we didn't experience much in the way of severe cold, with nothing more than a a few frosty mornings.  Every palm bar one suffered from spear pull after (a very cold) winter 2022/2023,  I'm not expecting too many issues this year.  But time will tell...

My small Jubaea suffered from spear pull early last year and as a result only put out one crimpled frond by the end of the summer.  It has already stared to put out new fronds this year, however,  it now appears to be growing at any angle.  Does anyone know if it will straighten up in time, or is there something I should be doing to help it?  I'm also hoping it starts putting on some height at some point! 

Thanks everyone. 

 

 

 

 

[Banana Belt]

On 4/1/2024 at 3:20 AM, The Converted said:

should be doing to help it?

Your palm is in its early stages of growth so most important consideration is to keep it alive, healthy and growing.  It will need room to grow to stay healthy so putting it in the ground will soon be necessary.  Jubaea take up considerable space with trunks that can grow to 2 meters in diameter, the largest of any palm.  They grow slow in their youth, but when they take off watch out.  Problems in its very early years won't make much difference when it gets close to taking off.

[The Converted]

Thanks Banana Belt 

Your not wrong regarding the slow growth rate! That said it's childhood trunk has thicken up nicely which is hopefully a positive.  It's only 6, maybe 7 years old, so it looks like I'm in for the long haul....

The palms should start picking up soon as it looks like we've finally seen the back of the endless cold, wet and dull weather. 

 

 

[Harry’s Palms]

That’s the first time I’ve actually seen a small one. It will certainly straighten up in time , most palms find their way just fine if kept healthy. Harry

[Leelanau Palms]

Please keep sharing updated pictures as it grows 

[Leelanau Palms]

My new baby has a long way to go, but I just love the journey

 

[The Converted]

Harry's Palms, that's good to hear! It's the first time I've experienced a palm growing at an angle! 

Leelanau Palms, unfortunately it's not a very quick journey! How old is your JC? I've recently picked up a similar sized B Yatay, it'll be interesting to see how it compares growth wise.   

Other than a few sunny / warm days, conditions haven't been great for palms.  I'm hoping the JC starts to pick up the pace once the summer finally arrives! I'll keep you updated. 

[Leelanau Palms]

I'm not sure how old mine is. I just bought it mail order. I'd love to see a picture of your B Yatay (? new thread)

[The Converted]

Here’s the B Yatay, I also picked up a W Filifera at the same time. They spent the winter in the conservatory but I’m hoping they’ll be okay outside (with some protection) once they’re a bit older. 

[Leelanau Palms]

Love that yatay!

[Banana Belt]

Picture of our two Jubaea taken last Jan. at the 42nd parallel southern Oregon coast.  I grew them from seed and  planted a little more than 40 years ago.  We love them both throughout their years of growing up as they are now beginning to produce Palm Nuts.

[Leelanau Palms]

1 hour ago, Banana Belt said:

Picture of our two Jubaea taken last Jan. at the 42nd parallel southern Oregon coast.  I grew them from seed and  planted a little more than 40 years ago.  We love them both throughout their years of growing up as they are now beginning to produce Palm Nuts.

Updated summer pics?

[Banana Belt]

1 hour ago, Leelanau Palms said:

Updated summer pics?

Not much has changed since last Jan, but I will post updated picture later this summer after the palms have shed their lower fronds and added another 18 inches to the trunk.

[The Converted]

Wow, they look great! Only 35 or so years to go! It’s amazing how much quicker they grow once they start trunking. I think I might need to move to somewhere with a bigger garden before that point! 

Our summers are not particularly long so the growing conditions are probably less favourable. That said, I can think of a few decent examples of JC’s & CIDP’s along the Dorset / Sussex Coast. 
 

 

 

[Scott W]

On 6/2/2024 at 5:09 PM, Banana Belt said:

Picture of our two Jubaea taken last Jan. at the 42nd parallel southern Oregon coast.  I grew them from seed and  planted a little more than 40 years ago.  We love them both throughout their years of growing up as they are now beginning to produce Palm Nuts.

That's a beautiful palm! 😍 

Here's mine...she's about 20 years old from seed but lived in an undersized pot for about 12 of that so it stunted the growth.  It's probably the largest one growing in all of Florida.

 

[Leelanau Palms]

Scott, where are Jubaea (chilensis) grown in the southeast U.S.?

[RJ]

1 hour ago, Leelanau Palms said:

Scott, where are Jubaea (chilensis) grown in the southeast U.S.?

There is a big one in Alabama, used to be one n Rock Hill SC that I think has since perished. 
 

id really like to try one, but need to source a good sized one. Every small one that I’ve had went toes up still in strap leaf stage 🙄

[Scott W]

2 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

Scott, where are Jubaea (chilensis) grown in the southeast U.S.?

There aren't, many have tried and many have failed.

I know there's a thread from Eric regarding one in central Florida that had several feet of trunk that perished, and Dave Alvarez recently planted a couple in Georgia.

Who knows if this one will survive or not...

[Leelanau Palms]

3 hours ago, Scott W said:

There aren't, many have tried and many have failed.

I know there's a thread from Eric regarding one in central Florida that had several feet of trunk that perished, and Dave Alvarez recently planted a couple in Georgia.

Who knows if this one will survive or not...

Why do they fail? Too wet? Cold damage?

[Banana Belt]

@Leelanau Palms  Current picture of Jubaea where seed was planted in pot 1982 or 1983 I can't remember for sure, then planted in ground 1989 and is growing ever since.

[Leelanau Palms]

Gorgeous! Love it. 

[Scott W]

3 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

Why do they fail? Too wet? Cold damage?

Don't think anyone knows for sure, some have attributed it to the humidity and others soil conditions and pests.  Either way they just fail for whatever reason....

Cant wait to see how this new hybrid works out....it's Merrill Wilcox' Jubutia F3 backcrossed with Jubaea pollen. Local hybridizer Rich Lindberg did the cross a few years back and the trees have a phenomenal Jubaea look and did the cross again last year, to which I have a few seedlings.  You can see them in the Palm Hybrids group on FB

[Leelanau Palms]

That is SUPER cool! I'm not on Facebook. Would you be willing to share a pic or two here?

[Scott W]

On 6/6/2024 at 4:37 PM, Leelanau Palms said:

That is SUPER cool! I'm not on Facebook. Would you be willing to share a pic or two here?

This is a picture from July 2023...

And these are from today....

Palms are 6 years old from seed.

[Leelanau Palms]

Beautiful, gorgeous palms. Are they going in the ground?

[Scott W]

13 hours ago, Leelanau Palms said:

Beautiful, gorgeous palms. Are they going in the ground?

He's going to put them in 45s as he is considering a possible move in the next couple years.

[swolf]

Sheesh, that last one looks like pure Jub, homerun hybridization for Rich!