Dypsis leptocheilos Teddy Bear Palm

[Danielkoske]

Not too sure what’s going on or if I should worry about it. Is this leaf spot a fungus or something? I’ve got these guys inside after a cold snap and heavy wind burnt some of the leaves to a crisp. (I think that’s what caused it.)

do you think these little guys are going to throw up new leaves or are then done? Still green on the stem so I think it’s still alive. I’m not giving up on them until I’m sure they are absolutely dead. 

[TomJ]

D.O.A.   start over

[Tracy]

  On 1/30/2024 at 1:45 PM, Danielkoske said:

Not too sure what’s going on or if I should worry about it. Is this leaf spot a fungus or something? I’ve got these guys inside after a cold snap and heavy wind burnt some of the leaves to a crisp. (I think that’s what caused it.)

do you think these little guys are going to throw up new leaves or are then done? Still green on the stem so I think it’s still alive. I’m not giving up on them until I’m sure they are absolutely dead. 

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Agree with Tom on the center one in the last photo, but the leaf in the first photo and the one to the left in the group pot photo could very well pull through if it doesn't get hit again with the conditions that toasted the roasted center plant.  How cold was the cold snap they were exposed to?  Also what was the duration of the cold snap, overnight, a few hours before dawn, several days or ????

[Navarro]

La mia tiene el mismo aspecto pero no es por frío , no se a que se debe pero siempre se ve mal ,otras que tuve en el pasado le sucedía  lo mismo.

Parece que estás son propensas a alguna deficiencia 

[Navarro]

[Danielkoske]

  On 1/30/2024 at 6:56 PM, Tracy said:

Agree with Tom on the center one in the last photo, but the leaf in the first photo and the one to the left in the group pot photo could very well pull through if it doesn't get hit again with the conditions that toasted the roasted center plant.  How cold was the cold snap they were exposed to?  Also what was the duration of the cold snap, overnight, a few hours before dawn, several days or ????

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it was exposed to 38-45 for about 2 days before I noticed the small guys dried up.Stem still green. Any idea on the leaf spots? 

[Silas_Sancona]

🤔Interesting.. a couple nights in the suggested temp range shouldn't have zapped these, not that bad .. 

Had a couple smaller specimens when i lived not too far from you're general location up in Largo about 12 years ago that burnt a bit, but held up after the frosty mornings they'd experienced in 2010, and ..Unless no longer present, there are / were?  a couple Teddy Bears in the Palm Collection at Kopsick ( Located near the Swim center, just north of Vinoy Park ) that did pretty well exposed to somewhat chillier temps a couple times since i lived in the area  than these experienced.  Seminole is one of the warmer spots in P.C. too ..so,  i'm a bit intrigued, lol..

I wonder if they might have stayed too moist, and ended up suffering some sort of root rot - related issue. Cold / wet soil could cause this..  One w/ the " still green " fronds may pull through. " Crispier " critter?  yea, unfortunately,  i'd probably toss it. ...Esp. if the center doesn't feet solid / is more brown than green / overall plant is wobbly. 

[Danielkoske]

  On 1/30/2024 at 9:34 PM, Silas_Sancona said:

🤔Interesting.. a couple nights in the suggested temp range shouldn't have zapped these, not that bad .. 

Had a couple smaller specimens when i lived not too far from you're general location up in Largo about 12 years ago that burnt a bit, but held up after the frosty mornings they'd experienced in 2010, and ..Unless no longer present, there are / were?  a couple Teddy Bears in the Palm Collection at Kopsick ( Located near the Swim center, just north of Vinoy Park ) that did pretty well exposed to somewhat chillier temps a couple times since i lived in the area  than these experienced.  Seminole is one of the warmer spots in P.C. too ..so,  i'm a bit intrigued, lol..

I wonder if they might have stayed too moist, and ended up suffering some sort of root rot - related issue. Cold / wet soil could cause this..  One w/ the " still green " fronds may pull through. " Crispier " critter?  yea, unfortunately,  i'd probably toss it. ...Esp. if the center doesn't feet solid / is more brown than green / overall plant is wobbly. 

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I actually live in Seminole. I think my irrigation was going off while it was cold and could have received some of that. No harm in just waiting them out. 

[flplantguy]

Peroxide if you haven't done it yet may help.  I found some pink mold on a base of one of my other chrysalidocarpus from damp chill I think.  It was too wet in that soil, and the humidity of the greenhouse, but it didn't rot like yours since the top was dry.  See if the roots are alive or if they are mush too, that one I had was starting to turn brown and soft on the roots when I repotted it into perlite (for now).

[sonoranfans]

  On 1/30/2024 at 8:33 PM, Danielkoske said:

it was exposed to 38-45 for about 2 days before I noticed the small guys dried up.Stem still green. Any idea on the leaf spots? 

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what happened that you got 38 degrees?  I am across the skyway from you and no way it went under 42 degrees.  My teddies are a little bigger than yours but out in the open, no damage.  Something else going on I think.  When these and other crownshafts are small, you can help protect them from drying out so keep them out of the wind.  Dont forget to water heavily to rinse salts out of the pot every few months. 

[Than]

Mine has also seen 40 F on few days without any damage. Even when windy and even though it is in a pot. Same size as yours.

[BS Man about Palms]

Just got back from the Seminole area.. share a condo near long bayou.  Certainly had some cold on Monday !

Doesn't look good... but generically, the "green" you mention is a telltale. A "dull" green is a goner.. if it seems like a brown mixed in. The brighter and more vibrant the green, the better are the odds it may survive.

 

[SeanK]

My impulse was to agree with @TomJ on this, until I saw prices. My guess is that these are tender on-par with Christmas palms.

[sonoranfans]

  On 1/31/2024 at 4:06 PM, SeanK said:

My impulse was to agree with @TomJ on this, until I saw prices. My guess is that these are tender on-par with Christmas palms.

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Teddies take 2-3 degrees lower than christmas palms but temperature tolerance of small potted palms are definitely not as good as an established palm.  Cold tolerance rating are just about always referring to established palms, many hobbyists dont get it till they kill a few, myself included.

[Phoenikakias]

  On 1/30/2024 at 7:20 PM, Navarro said:

La mia tiene el mismo aspecto pero no es por frío , no se a que se debe pero siempre se ve mal ,otras que tuve en el pasado le sucedía  lo mismo.

Parece que estás son propensas a alguna deficiencia 

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Deja no secar

[Phoenikakias]

  On 1/31/2024 at 3:26 PM, Than said:

Mine has also seen 40 F on few days without any damage. Even when windy and even though it is in a pot. Same size as yours.

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When we are talking about temps above freezing point, perhaps a sudden cold spell is more destructive, while palms are still on active growth.

[SeanK]

  On 1/31/2024 at 6:19 PM, Phoenikakias said:

When we are talking about temps above freezing point, perhaps a sudden cold spell is more destructive, while palms are still on active growth.

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Definitely, a hard freeze hits worse at the start of winter than it does 6 weeks later.

[sonoranfans]

looks like pinellas did hit 37F while sarasota hit only 40F.  Still I have had a half a dozen small container(<3 gallon) teddies in 34 F with no damage a couple years ago.   My oldest saw 28F, 29F consecutive nights in 2020 and survived ws totally burned but with spear intact as a 3 month in the ground 3 gallon.   

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

These by no means are tender palms. Atleast at the size I have in a pot. Mine has seen plenty of  near freezes with zero burn. I bring mine in if we are expecting below freezing. @Danielkoske I think your pots are way to big for that size of palm. Most likely not drying out especially if you have them on irrigatio. 

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