Wondering what Palms Ill be seeing in Greece

[Canadianplant]

Pretty much like what the title says.  Ill be in Athens, Aegina, Hydra (idra) and Helakrion Crete (knossos).  The photos Ive seen online are  all Washys, Dates and the obvious Chamaerhops.  Im assuming there are more scattered around those areas.  I think I saw a pic of a livingstonia in the National gardens in Athens.  Anyone have any leads on where to see some more species?

[NC_Palms]

I've never been to Greece but have been throughout the western Mediterranean. Typically Phoenix and washies are the most common in the Mediterranean. but be prepared to see everything except for the ultra tropical palm species like coconuts. 

[Than]

There are more species scattered. You can find many Syagrus in Athens. In Crete you may find Archontophoenix too. The climate is suitable but people just don't know them as much. In Crete of course you may see the native theophrasti if you go to Vai or the southern coast.  

But you're right, mostly you'll see CIDP, date palms and Washingtonias. 

[Phoenikakias]

You are not gonna see a great variety of palm spp publicly planted in Athens for several good reasons. It is essential watering during the warmer months almost every day and this is a not feasible task for municipalty gardeners. So only palms from temperate regions of Mediterranean climate are viable, that is Washies, CIDP and Dacties and Chamaerops, as long as some of them are spared by rpw and Paysandisia. Nevertheless you will be able in Athens on the Sygrou Avenue to see the biggest publicly planted P theophrasti population in the city and on the opposite side of the Avn some very nice exemplars of Butia yatay. Can't help more.

[Canadianplant]

Ahhh that's helpful! Was hoping to see some theophratsii but won't be in the east of crete to see them in situ.

[Foxpalms]

  On 1/26/2024 at 11:50 PM, Canadianplant said:

Pretty much like what the title says.  Ill be in Athens, Aegina, Hydra (idra) and Helakrion Crete (knossos).  The photos Ive seen online are  all Washys, Dates and the obvious Chamaerhops.  Im assuming there are more scattered around those areas.  I think I saw a pic of a livingstonia in the National gardens in Athens.  Anyone have any leads on where to see some more species?

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You could look for the royal palm in Athens. Google earth is always good for finding palms.

[Janni]

At the National Garden in Athens, next to the Parliament House, you will find an impressive row of huge Washingtonia Filifera. Also in that park, there are a couple of Livistona Chinensis and one very old, almost ancient grove of Chamaerops Humilis with wildly curved trunks. Of course there are the typical Phoenix Canariensis and Washingtonia robustas as well. I don’t think you will find any other palm species there. 

The National Garden in general is a nice place - at least it was nice, when I was there over ten years ago. 

[Phoenikakias]

  On 1/28/2024 at 9:32 PM, Janni said:

At the National Garden in Athens, next to the Parliament House, you will find an impressive row of huge Washingtonia Filifera. Also in that park, there are a couple of Livistona Chinensis and one very old, almost ancient grove of Chamaerops Humilis with wildly curved trunks. Of course there are the typical Phoenix Canariensis and Washingtonia robustas as well. I don’t think you will find any other palm species there. 

The National Garden in general is a nice place - at least it was nice, when I was there over ten years ago. 

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There are also two super tall Livistona australis beside the duck pond. There were in the past also a Livistona decora and a Sabal specimen  but now they are gone. I feel fortunate to have been able to grow offsprings of all previously mentioned plants.

[Canadianplant]

  On 1/28/2024 at 9:46 PM, Phoenikakias said:

There are also two super tall Livistona australis beside the duck pond. There were in the past also a Livistona decora and a Sabal specimen  but now they are gone. I feel fortunate to have been able to grow offsprings of all previously mentioned plants.

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im wondering if thats what I saw in some of the pics.  I knew I saw a livistonia lol.

[RedRabbit]

I mostly recall queens and kentia. There weren’t many palms there compared to Florida.

[Phoenikakias]

  On 1/30/2024 at 12:21 AM, Canadianplant said:

im wondering if thats what I saw in some of the pics.  I knew I saw a livistonia lol.

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[Janni]

  On 1/30/2024 at 1:29 AM, RedRabbit said:

I mostly recall queens and kentia.

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…and that was in Greece?? That Greece in southern Europe? 🤨 

[RedRabbit]

  On 1/30/2024 at 7:50 PM, Janni said:

…and that was in Greece?? That Greece in southern Europe? 🤨 

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Yeah, I’m sure there was more. The reason those two stuck out to me is Kentia’s don’t grow here and I was disappointed to see queens being overused. 

[Phoenikakias]

  On 1/30/2024 at 8:11 PM, RedRabbit said:

Yeah, I’m sure there was more. The reason those two stuck out to me is Kentia’s don’t grow here and I was disappointed to see queens being overused. 

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In which particular area of Greece did you see outplanted Howeas? To say that I am surprised is an uderstatement, cause Howea is an oceanic genus and most of Greece has a continental climate, meaning that a Howea would be scorched both during winter and summer, with certainty at least in latter case. Islands with  favorable microclimate are excepted due to higher air moisture and lower high T in summer.