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Fresno Beccariophoenix alfredii

Josue Diaz

By Josue Diaz
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With high 60s and low 70s in the forecast, it's time to do some spring clean up. I took these pics of my alfredii while I was out there trimming stuff. 

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Nice! Your garden is looking pretty festive in general too! 

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Cool, mine is having it's first winter and so far so good. I'm really excited to see it grow out this spring and summer. 

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Hillizard Grand Master

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On 1/19/2024 at 3:13 PM, Josue Diaz said:

With high 60s and low 70s in the forecast, it's time to do some spring clean up. I took these pics of my alfredii while I was out there trimming stuff. 

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Josue: I really envy you your success with that palm!!  I got another 5-gal B. alfredii recently for my latest attempt to establish one in my yard. This one I'm gonna tuck beneath some cold hardy palms like one of my Butias or a shade tree. 🤞

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4 hours ago, Hillizard said:

Josue: I really envy you your success with that palm!!  I got another 5-gal B. alfredii recently for my latest attempt to establish one in my yard. This one I'm gonna tuck beneath some cold hardy palms like one of my Butias or a shade tree. 🤞

You haven't been able to get one to go yet? Seems like you have had a lot of successes in your yard, I'm surprised. 

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Josue Diaz Grand Master

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13 hours ago, Hillizard said:

Josue: I really envy you your success with that palm!!  I got another 5-gal B. alfredii recently for my latest attempt to establish one in my yard. This one I'm gonna tuck beneath some cold hardy palms like one of my Butias or a shade tree. 🤞

I'm curious if it has to do with soil? I have very deep, sandy soil - most of central Fresno is like this. I'd imagine a lot of the low lying parts of Sacramento would be similar with the confluence of so many rivers in the area. 

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Hillizard Grand Master

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On 1/26/2024 at 9:11 AM, Josue Diaz said:

I'm curious if it has to do with soil? I have very deep, sandy soil - most of central Fresno is like this. I'd imagine a lot of the low lying parts of Sacramento would be similar with the confluence of so many rivers in the area. 

I think you may be onto something there about the soil. My yard is located in a low, rising area away from the rivers. Definitely not in a floodplain like many areas around me. I have clay overlaying hardpan. Wherever I decide to plant mine, I think I'll amend the soil with a few bags of sand. That may be the trick to getting it established. 😉

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On 1/25/2024 at 11:49 PM, BayAndroid said:

You haven't been able to get one to go yet? Seems like you have had a lot of successes in your yard, I'm surprised. 

My successes in my area are usu. with the most cold tolerant palms (paired with mild winters). Unfortunately I've never been able to establish Archontophoenix or Roystonea species beyond a year in the ground. More tender palms I keep in pots and drag into my sunroom in the winter, like my Pritchardia.

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On 1/20/2024 at 10:13 AM, Josue Diaz said:

With high 60s and low 70s in the forecast, it's time to do some spring clean up. I took these pics of my alfredii while I was out there trimming stuff. 

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The palm is a beauty but the pesticide free garden is even more beautiful 

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On 1/27/2024 at 12:03 PM, Hillizard said:

My successes in my area are usu. with the most cold tolerant palms (paired with mild winters). Unfortunately I've never been able to establish Archontophoenix or Roystonea species beyond a year in the ground. More tender palms I keep in pots and drag into my sunroom in the winter, like my Pritchardia.

I've had a good stretch with archontophoenix, and because they're commonly available at nurseries here, they are popping up randomly in people's yards. There is even a nice trio of them at a gas station in southeast Fresno that are beginning to trunk. Never tried roystonea, though I've been tempted...

 

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On 1/27/2024 at 1:40 PM, happypalms said:

The palm is a beauty but the pesticide free garden is even more beautiful 

Happy to try to incorporate ourselves into the existing ecosystem :) We incorporate a lot of native plants, including native milkweed species (asclepias) which are host for the endangered western monarch butterfly, as well as native aristolochia which is host for the California pipevine swallowtail. In summer, we get those, plus tiger swallowtails, fritillaries and a number of other butterflies and native bees. 

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That is cool. I actually used to work for a landscape company that installed butterfly gardens. I have a few Asclepias in the landscape here but it's so easy to go with things like Firebush and Porterweed to draw in the butterflies.

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17 hours ago, Josue Diaz said:

Happy to try to incorporate ourselves into the existing ecosystem :) We incorporate a lot of native plants, including native milkweed species (asclepias) which are host for the endangered western monarch butterfly, as well as native aristolochia which is host for the California pipevine swallowtail. In summer, we get those, plus tiger swallowtails, fritillaries and a number of other butterflies and native bees. 

I never spray my vegetable garden or my garden it just upsets the whole balance let the bugs eat a few things I say Mother Nature has a way of dealing with it 

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On 1/26/2024 at 12:17 AM, Hillizard said:

Josue: I really envy you your success with that palm!!  I got another 5-gal B. alfredii recently for my latest attempt to establish one in my yard. This one I'm gonna tuck beneath some cold hardy palms like one of my Butias or a shade tree. 🤞

If they will succeed they will form too much shade for the Butia ..... They are a lot bigger than a butia and spread more. Below some queen palms or other higher trees will have a better outcome, because the queens grow faster than a Beccariophoenix.

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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On 1/30/2024 at 1:55 PM, Alberto said:

If they will succeed they will form too much shade for the Butia ..... They are a lot bigger than a butia and spread more. Below some queen palms or other higher trees will have a better outcome, because the queens grow faster than a Beccariophoenix.

Thanks for the suggestion Alberto! I may plant my Beccariosphoenix adjacent to my mule palm which is now over 20ft in height (and is also away from my fence line). In my location it'll be years before it grows very tall, though it may spread. My Jubaea is short and squat but already spreading very wide! Winter weather this year hasn't slowed that palm down one bit!!

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