Palms in zone 7b with protection

[jjjemetrious7]

I live in zone 7b East Coast USA, and I want to know what are less cold tolerant palm trees from zone 8a or above that I can grow with just minimal protection like wrapping or some other easy method in winter. Are there any more different palms that are not Trachycarpus or Sabal that I can protect in winter?

[Allen]

try some from my sig

[jjjemetrious7]

1 minute ago, Allen said:

try some from my sig

I do not understand

[Allen]

1 hour ago, jjjemetrious7 said:

I do not understand

My signature

(Sabal) minor(7 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf),  brazoria(1) , birmingham(4), etonia (1) louisiana(5), palmetto (1), riverside (1),  (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7), wagnerianus(1),  Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7),  15' Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1),  Blue Butia capitata(1) +Tons of tropical plants.  Recent Yearly Lows -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTbWs0Gx7fE

 

Edited January 1, 2024 by Allen

[PAPalmtrees]

A  good one to try is a Pindo Palm is a zone 8  palm 
that's a good one to try in zone 7b

[NC_Palms]

You have tons of options for palms. Butia and chamaerops should do well with protection for you. Also Chinese fan palm is a goody hardy die back perennial palm you should be able to grow as well. 

[NCFM]

Not a palm, but Cycas revoluta and taitungensis have both done well for me and I live on the 7b/8a border.  The foliage will die back during harsh winters, but they come back strong in the spring.  I'm also experimenting with Butia odorata and it has done well so far with minimal protection (survived last winter with no damage). 

[Advective]

Butia Odorata is a good choice for its relative leaf hardiness, providing a nicer crown more often. However, they do need supplemental heat for prolonged single digit temperatures, in my experience. That may be beyond what you consider minimal protection.

Are you already growing Sabal or wanting something different that stands out? You may come to appreciate the perseverance of a Sabal Louisiana or 7B Sabal Palmetto variant in time.

[WSimpson]

Washy filibusta is an option . Protection is just incandescent Christmas lights wrapped by a layer or 2 of blankets . I like to mulch the bottom blanket to keep it sealed from air blowing up and under the blankets . Try to get one on the Filifera side with less Robusta . That way it won't get too tall too fast and it stays green into the teens  . Mine has a lot of Robusta in it and it's getting tall and  harder and harder to protect every winter that goes below 15F . I have 2 small ones that are hardy from seed collected from a palm  in Fayetteville , NC , and while mine bronzes out at 23F , I think that those   Fayetteville Filibustas  will keep green fronds into the teens .

Knikfar , who posts here , might have some for sale . He sold me my small Washys . 

Will

My Washy below :

 

Edited January 3, 2024 by Will Simpson

[jjjemetrious7]

4 hours ago, Will Simpson said:

Washy filibusta is an option . Protection is just incandescent Christmas lights wrapped by a layer or 2 of blankets . I like to mulch the bottom blanket to keep it sealed from air blowing up and under the blankets . Try to get one on the Filifera side with less Robusta . That way it won't get too tall too fast and it stays green into the teens  . Mine has a lot of Robusta in it and it's getting tall and  harder and harder to protect every winter that goes below 15F . I have 2 small ones that are hardy from seed collected from a palm  in Fayetteville , NC , and while mine bronzes out at 23F , I think that those   Fayetteville Filibustas  will keep green fronds into the teens .

Knikfar , who posts here , might have some for sale . He sold me my small Washys . 

Will

My Washy below :

 

Where else can I buy this tree and what do you recommend for very cold weather? Do you have any pictures of protection?

Edited January 3, 2024 by jjjemetrious7

[Colin1110082]

7 hours ago, Will Simpson said:

Washy filibusta is an option . Protection is just incandescent Christmas lights wrapped by a layer or 2 of blankets . I like to mulch the bottom blanket to keep it sealed from air blowing up and under the blankets . Try to get one on the Filifera side with less Robusta . That way it won't get too tall too fast and it stays green into the teens  . Mine has a lot of Robusta in it and it's getting tall and  harder and harder to protect every winter that goes below 15F . I have 2 small ones that are hardy from seed collected from a palm  in Fayetteville , NC , and while mine bronzes out at 23F , I think that those   Fayetteville Filibustas  will keep green fronds into the teens .

Knikfar , who posts here , might have some for sale . He sold me my small Washys . 

Will

My Washy below :

 

Is that Musa Basjoo shriveled up? I want to plant a few

[Colin1110082]

On 1/1/2024 at 1:08 PM, jjjemetrious7 said:

I live in zone 7b East Coast USA, and I want to know what are less cold tolerant palm trees from zone 8a or above that I can grow with just minimal protection like wrapping or some other easy method in winter. Are there any more different palms that are not Trachycarpus or Sabal that I can protect in winter?

Hey I don’t know if this counts but Cabbage Palm Sabal Palmetto I would consider as hardy but not like a Sabal Minor or Trachycarpus. Maybe in your zone this could be an option, but that depends on how you interpret it. Also the Jelly Palm and Mule Palm.

[palm trees n brooklyn]

17 hours ago, Colin1110082 said:

Hey I don’t know if this counts but Cabbage Palm Sabal Palmetto I would consider as hardy but not like a Sabal Minor or Trachycarpus. Maybe in your zone this could be an option, but that depends on how you interpret it. Also the Jelly Palm and Mule Palm.

supposedly bald head island variety is 7b. a good location and who knows

[WSimpson]

21 hours ago, jjjemetrious7 said:

Where else can I buy this tree and what do you recommend for very cold weather? Do you have any pictures of protection?

Here's the protection I felt like I had to do last Christmas Eve when it got down to 6F . The order of the pictures  may not be correct , but it starts with cutting off the fronds  . The second to last picture is in the spring when the lights become festive .

Edited January 4, 2024 by Will Simpson

[NC_Palms]

1 hour ago, Will Simpson said:

Here's the protection I felt like I had to do last Christmas Eve when it got down to 6F . The order of the pictures  may not be correct , but it starts with cutting off the fronds  . The second to last picture is in the spring when the lights become festive .

This is extreme dedication. 

 

In NC?? 

[WSimpson]

17 hours ago, NC_Palms said:

This is extreme dedication. 

 

In NC?? 

It's in Winston-Salem where I just turned 8A but have around 3-4 7B's a decade . Average 30 year Low is 11F point something . It was an easy job before it got so tall lol . 

Will

Edited January 5, 2024 by Will Simpson

[NC_Palms]

3 hours ago, Will Simpson said:

It's in Winston-Salem where I just turned 8A but have around 3-4 7B's a decade . Average 30 year Low is 11F point something . It was an easy job before it got so tall lol . 

Will

Im on the other side of the state (assuming warm 8a/ right on the 8b line) and i’ve planted filifera here unprotected since 2018. I always kill robustas tho lol 

[NCFM]

51 minutes ago, NC_Palms said:

Im on the other side of the state (assuming warm 8a/ right on the 8b line) and i’ve planted filifera here unprotected since 2018. I always kill robustas tho lol 

I've got a robusta planted here near Greensboro and it has died to the ground two times but it keeps coming back lol.  Planning to try a filifera or filibusta this spring. 

[NC_Palms]

1 hour ago, NCFM said:

I've got a robusta planted here near Greensboro and it has died to the ground two times but it keeps coming back lol.  Planning to try a filifera or filibusta this spring. 

any protection? i have a robusta in my greenhouse that im planning on planting again when spring arrives 

[SeanK]

3 hours ago, NC_Palms said:

Im on the other side of the state (assuming warm 8a/ right on the 8b line) and i’ve planted filifera here unprotected since 2018. I always kill robustas tho lol 

Are small filifera tough to get through the damp winters?

[L.A.M.]

On 1/1/2024 at 12:08 PM, jjjemetrious7 said:

I live in zone 7b East Coast USA, and I want to know what are less cold tolerant palm trees from zone 8a or above that I can grow with just minimal protection like wrapping or some other easy method in winter. Are there any more different palms that are not Trachycarpus or Sabal that I can protect in winter?

Rhapidophyllum isn't a "Trachycarpus or Sabal" but wouldn't even need protection. I'm in Zone 7b (bordering on 7a) in Tennessee, and mine survived a -2 degree Fahrenheit low followed by a 2 degree Fahrenheit high in December 2022 with zero damage whatsoever. My Sabal minor lost the older half of its leaves in the exact same cold wave but still survived and recovered without serious difficulty; I think there's no question that Rhapidophyllum is the most cold-hardy palm on Earth. Really, they even seem to be somewhat more leaf-hardy than the Magnolia grandiflora trees that are ubiquitous in people's yards here.

[NCFM]

5 hours ago, NC_Palms said:

any protection? i have a robusta in my greenhouse that im planning on planting again when spring arrives 

I throw a big plastic trash can over it if we get freezing rain, but that's it.  The years when it died to the ground it was because rain got down inside the spear and then froze causing rot. 

[NC_Palms]

On 1/5/2024 at 4:35 PM, SeanK said:

Are small filifera tough to get through the damp winters?

It’s definitely not happy by the time spring arrives but I think my soil is sandy enough to allow good drainage