Chamaedorea "radicalis x microspadix"

[BeyondTheGarden]

Against my better judgment.  These weren't cheap and I have low expectations.  I will try to find the link to the older post where this hybrid was already discussed, unless someone else has it handy. 

"Chamaedorea radicalis x microspadix": 

They look like regular radicalis to me. 

Chamaedorea radicalis: 

Thanks to a few hungry rats, I have no microspadix seedlings.  But my 2 gal's have some seedling-sized suckers.  

Chamaedorea microspadix: 

[Fusca]

  On 11/22/2023 at 12:06 AM, Jesse PNW said:

Against my better judgment.  These weren't cheap and I have low expectations.  I will try to find the link to the older post where this hybrid was already discussed, unless someone else has it handy. 

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You're right, those do look like regular C. radicalis.  Hopefully they will turn out more interesting as they age.  Here you go - I just reread this thread the other day:

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Fusca

[N8ALLRIGHT]

You're right,they do look like radicalis. Since the mother plant is listed as radicalis, perhaps they start looking more like radicalis and will exhibit more microspadix traits as it matures.

[BeyondTheGarden]

@N8ALLRIGHT I appreciate your optimism.  The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.  If you can't be a patient gardener, at least be a lazy gardener.  That works for gardening and mousetraps, but not many other places in life.  

On the bright side, these look very leggy and etiolated.  I used to have a bunch of radicalis  seedlings that looked like this and it's my preference that they stretch out like these.  So, at least, they are some very fine radicalis seedlings.  

[BeyondTheGarden]

But speaking of my 2 gal microspadix, I just noticed this.  It flowered earlier this summer but did not set seed. 

Edit; I can't remember which microspadix flowered this summer.  Perhaps it was the other one. 

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[DAVEinMB]

  On 11/22/2023 at 6:15 PM, Jesse PNW said:

But speaking of my 2 gal microspadix, I just noticed this.  It flowered earlier this summer but did not set seed. 

Edit; I can't remember which microspadix flowered this summer.  Perhaps it was the other one. 

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You may have answered this above but do you have male and female plants? I have multiple plants in my garden and it took a few years to start seeing viable seed

[BeyondTheGarden]

@DAVEinMB good question, wish I knew the answer.  I'll pay more attention this time.  I was thinking they were monoecious for some reason. 

[DAVEinMB]

  On 11/22/2023 at 8:31 PM, Jesse PNW said:

@DAVEinMB good question, wish I knew the answer.  I'll pay more attention this time.  I was thinking they were monoecious for some reason. 

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I wish they were, mine were flowering for years with zero action

[Paradise Found]

Cool hybrid   
I also have Chamaedorea rad x micro. Probably same grower in S.C.  Mine looks just like yours, will be interesting to see what happens with the trunk and leaves in a few years.  Yours will grow new growth come spring for sure.   

[Robbertico18]

  On 12/22/2023 at 6:42 AM, Paradise Found said:

Cool hybrid   
I also have Chamaedorea rad x micro. Probably same grower in S.C.  Mine looks just like yours, will be interesting to see what happens with the trunk and leaves in a few years.  Yours will grow new growth come spring for sure.   

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Do you have any pics of yours?

I don’t have this hybrid but I do have a microspadix and radicalis planted very close so hopefully in a few years I’ll get some hybrids as well 

[Paradise Found]

Here it is same seedling size as above.  

[Las Palmas Norte]

  On 11/22/2023 at 12:06 AM, BeyondTheGarden said:

Against my better judgment.  These weren't cheap and I have low expectations. ...

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🤣 That's dedication right there. Good for you man.

[BeyondTheGarden]

  On 12/22/2023 at 7:46 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

🤣 That's dedication right there. Good for you man.

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Everything on earth is a net loss.  Here today, gone tomorrow; we can only enjoy it for a season.  "you can't take it with you when you go".

If these do by chance happen to exhibit traits from each of the two species once mature, then they will be worth the $150 or whatever they cost, especially if they can be crossed back with either of the parents. If not, oh well.  I've wasted that much money on things that were much less worthwhile.  

[ASHCVS]

Interesting thread!  Of course this hybrid cultivar (Chamaedorea radicalis x microspadix) was named “Alan Bredeson” by Don Hodel. Alan was a regular PalmTalk contributor (moniker:  Al in Kona) and served as the 15th president of the International Palm Society