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7A TN Blue Butia capitata (odorata) Growth over Years

Allen

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Allen Grand Master

Allen

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Starting to get big.  Protected approx. Dec-March each year

2019

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2020

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Very nice Allen, I have one that I bought as a 3 yr old and I'm fixingvto keep it thru my 3rd winter. I may plant mine about may or go with a larger container. Yours looks perfect.

Allen Grand Master

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3 hours ago, steve617 said:

Very nice Allen, I have one that I bought as a 3 yr old and I'm fixingvto keep it thru my 3rd winter. I may plant mine about may or go with a larger container. Yours looks perfect.

Yes it's at the size where I'm telling it not to grow any more.  

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20 minutes ago, Allen said:

Yes it's at the size where I'm telling it not to grow any more.  

Yeah, I've been searching for a dwarf cold hardy butia or dwarf mule. 

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Chester B Grand Master

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That one is real nice shade of blue.  There are so many green ones around, the blue ones seem to be more difficult to find.

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How old must they be to fruit?

Allen Grand Master

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17 minutes ago, Landasaw said:

How old must they be to fruit?

I was expecting it this year but not yet on mine

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17 minutes ago, Landasaw said:

How old must they be to fruit?

It really varies.  I bought one in 2012 that was in a 7-gal container with another 7-gal palm at the same nursery that was flowering.  As of 2022 that same palm had yet to flower!  I'm attaching a photo of mine here in Rio Hondo that has been in the ground since 2020.  It's about the same size as the one I mentioned earlier but hasn't flowered yet.  @Dartolution has a nice one that is smaller than mine that has already flowered.

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@Allen the Butia looks great! Really like the form on it!

As @Fusca stated - Mine flowered this year (and is sending up a 3rd inflo I just noticed yesterday). It was purchased as a 3 gallon in early March of 2020 and is now over 6 foot from the base to the top fronds and flowering. There is a small amount of fruit on it now that is developing, but I do not have high hopes for it this late in the season. We shall see. 

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Mine was probably in the 8'-9' overall height before it bloomed.  Definitely bigger than @Allen Butia.  Probably next year for his.

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Allen Grand Master

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2024 Unwrap

 

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On 10/19/2023 at 5:33 PM, steve617 said:

Here's my 7a Butia.

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@steve617 is that going in the ground?

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Zone 6b maritime climate

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Yes but i may wait another year haven't decided.

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On 10/18/2023 at 1:18 PM, Dartolution said:

@Allen the Butia looks great! Really like the form on it!

As @Fusca stated - Mine flowered this year (and is sending up a 3rd inflo I just noticed yesterday). It was purchased as a 3 gallon in early March of 2020 and is now over 6 foot from the base to the top fronds and flowering. There is a small amount of fruit on it now that is developing, but I do not have high hopes for it this late in the season. We shall see. 

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How did this one fare post the cold temps we just had in January?

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On 2/9/2024 at 7:12 PM, Sabal King said:

How did this one fare post the cold temps we just had in January?

@Sabal King near perfectly fine. Only tip burn and otherwise looks just fine thankfully. 

I did stuff some frost cloth in the crown with a small heat cable. 

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Updated pic

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Butia "Pineapple cut" or as close as I could get to that!  I used this little battery chainsaw and it was as much angle as I could get

What do you think Yay or Nay?

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Unwrapped it today

 

 

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Looks great @Allen. While I don't have to go to such extremes here, I did throw some frost cloth in the crown and a small heat cable around the meristem in this arctic blast. Did fine. We got down to 11.7F here. No damage on the butia that I can tell. 

 

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1 hour ago, Dartolution said:

Looks great @Allen. While I don't have to go to such extremes here, I did throw some frost cloth in the crown and a small heat cable around the meristem in this arctic blast. Did fine. We got down to 11.7F here. No damage on the butia that I can tell. 

 

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Looks great if there is damage it probably won't show up on the butia till it's hot and growing. 

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Yeah, I don't expect any this year. It had the least damage of any of my palms in December 22' with ~50% burn at 10F but 80+ hours below freezing. This got cold yeah, but no where near much sustained cold. 

I don't even think my sabal 'blackburniana' will have too much damage. Maybe tips. I don't see much bronzing or cell rupture which is usually obvious.  fingers crossed! 

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2025 update.  

 

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1 hour ago, Allen said:

2025 update.  

 

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Wow that's big!!!

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Trunk pic

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Mine is the palm pride of the front of my house as you  know since  you have seen it so many times , but I still like to show pictures of it .

 

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13 minutes ago, WSimpson said:

Mine is the palm pride of the front of my house as you  know since  you have seen it so many times , but I still like to show pictures of it .

 

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Mine is the green form in the picture but I do have a nice Cerifera blue form . I'll post a picture of it one of these days .

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This one is about 25 years from a strap leaf seedling. I couldn’t hardly see it when I planted it down my hill. I wasn’t sure it would even survive . I put a stake next to it to make sure my gardener wouldn’t think it was a weed! Originally sold as a special “ Bonetti” . Supposedly a smaller , slender type of Capitata . Just a large, blue Oderata in my opinion. HarryIMG_4571.thumb.jpeg.644c78c6ac978434d46aee4d611b49c2.jpeg

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Flowering every year , but no fruit since I cut down a large Syagrus R. that was next to it. IMG_0669.thumb.jpeg.c356b4f1da79ffc155d182f572abdfe9.jpeg

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On 7/8/2025 at 10:19 AM, Allen said:

2025 update.  

 

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Just starting mine out (Might have placed it too close to the walkway but ah well) Got it from Brian’s botanicals which has some really big palms that they don’t list on their website so anybody near Louisville go check em out! In Lexington KY where I live I found some European Fans, Christmas palms, huge queen palms, and botanical interests seeds 🤩! Places in KY that both have decent palms and stuff Wilson Plant Nursery in Lexington KY and Brian’s Botanicals in Louisville KY

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-Cfa- Humid Subtropical Hot Summers Mild Winters- in Lexington and Kissimmee __ -Cfb- Subtropical Highland Warm Summers Mild Winters- in SW VA

-Lexington KY Palms: In ground (4)-Musa Basjoo (2)-Majesty Palms (1)-Pindo palm (20+)-Sabal minor mccurtain  The pindo and majesty will be protected when needed.

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-Recent Lows -6F/25'__-1.8F/24'__17.8F/23'__-5.2F/22'__9.2F/21' (Lexington) We have been having tough winters lately.

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