Foxy lady growth rate .

[JubaeaMan138]

So I decided to plant this guy . He didn’t seem to be that fast when it was in the pot. I’ve heard they are quick growers but how quick royal or king quick or not that fast ? 

[Matt in OC]

Slow for me, pot or ground. But given others' experiences it could just be me.

[JubaeaMan138]

1 minute ago, Matt in OC said:

Slow for me, pot or ground. But given others' experiences it could just be me.

Interesting I’ve heard they like a lot of heat . I did over pot this guy for a while went straight from a small 5 to a 15 for about a year and half . But it was rooted great in the 15 when I planted it . But not much went on above . So we will see how it performs for me in the ground 

[Tracy]

58 minutes ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

Interesting I’ve heard they like a lot of heat . I did over pot this guy for a while went straight from a small 5 to a 15 for about a year and half . But it was rooted great in the 15 when I planted it . But not much went on above . So we will see how it performs for me in the ground 

I planted one here in Encinitas shortly after buying the house in 2010.  The previous owners had group plantings of Archontophoenix cunninghamiana they planted before listing the house that were relatively small and similar stature when I planted the Foxy Lady.  So fast forward to today, and they are similar stature.  I have two more that I planted in Carlsbad around the same time as the one here in Leucadia, maybe a few months before.  In Carlsbad, I don't have much I can compare that were similar size and similar time planting.  Here is the one in Leucadia just a year ago.  I have some more recent photos, but this one shows the best perspective of it even though it is inside the wall. It is definitely taller now.

[Tracy]

Current photo 

[JubaeaMan138]

1 minute ago, Tracy said:

Current photo 

What’s size were they when planted in 2010 ? 

[Tracy]

49 minutes ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

What’s size were they when planted in 2010 ? 

5 gallon size.

[DoomsDave]

@ellidro! Show your foxy ladies and tell us when planted and how big.

[JubaeaMan138]

42 minutes ago, Tracy said:

5 gallon size.

Excellent good to know . That’s substantial in my opinion 

[96720]

For me they are slower than my Chambyronia if the frond’s opening take forever!!

[Palmiz]

This is one i planted September 2021 about 3 ft tallHere it is exactly 2 years later. Has 2 rings of trunk. It's a variegated one, not sure if that makes any difference as for growth rate.

[Matt in OC]

Holy cow @Palmiz

[Palmiz]

9 minutes ago, Matt in OC said:

Holy cow @Palmiz

Not sure what it is, I thought all foxy have the Hybrid vigor.

[Butch]

This might no mean much, but in this pic you can see all of the regular volunteer foxtails compared to the one foxylady volunteer... It way out grew the rest of the tribe...  Maybe it was just in the perfect position for nutrients and water... I don't know...

..

Butch

[Tracy]

1 hour ago, Palmiz said:

This is one i planted September 2021 about 3 ft tallHere it is exactly 2 years later. Has 2 rings of trunk. It's a variegated one, not sure if that makes any difference as for growth rate.

One of mine in Carlsbad was variegated when acquired and the first couple of years but I don't recall seeing any variation recently. On the hybrid vigor aspect,  that was part of the appeal.  I have a Wodyetia bifurcata that I planted around 2003 or 4 that was extremely slow.  It was in fact a pair I planted but one rotted in the miserable cold spell of 2007.  I mention that because I wanted something faster, hence I bought the Foxy Ladies for the hybrid vigor.   The Wodyetia sped up eventually but perhaps some people's challenges are rooted in establishment and they will accelerate later.

[Matt in OC]

Here's 2.5 years of growth rate for me which I'd say most of which was this season.

Planted: 

 

Today:

[JubaeaMan138]

5 minutes ago, Matt in OC said:

Here's 2.5 years of growth rate for me which I'd say most of which was this season.

Planted: 

 

Today:

Looks like mine is about the size yours was when planted . Nice to have this to compare in 2.5 years . Any pictures close up  of the trunk? 

Edited October 4, 2023 by JubaeaMan138

[JubaeaMan138]

2 hours ago, Palmiz said:

This is one i planted September 2021 about 3 ft tallHere it is exactly 2 years later. Has 2 rings of trunk. It's a variegated one, not sure if that makes any difference as for growth rate.

Exceptional growth rate right there looking killer

[Palmiz]

4 hours ago, Tracy said:

One of mine in Carlsbad was variegated when acquired and the first couple of years but I don't recall seeing any variation recently. On the hybrid vigor aspect,  that was part of the appeal.  I have a Wodyetia bifurcata that I planted around 2003 or 4 that was extremely slow.  It was in fact a pair I planted but one rotted in the miserable cold spell of 2007.  I mention that because I wanted something faster, hence I bought the Foxy Ladies for the hybrid vigor.   The Wodyetia sped up eventually but perhaps some people's challenges are rooted in establishment and they will accelerate later.

I am noticing that there is less variegation on it lately and that's fine with me because I have heard that they burn more in full sun. It hasn't really burned on me since I've had it, grateful for that. Very nice Foxy by the way!

[Matt in OC]

5 hours ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

Looks like mine is about the size yours was when planted . Nice to have this to compare in 2.5 years . Any pictures close up  of the trunk? 

Need to roundup the grass around it. 

[JubaeaMan138]

1 hour ago, Matt in OC said:

Need to roundup the grass around it. 

Killer dude ! 🤙I remember seeing it the last time I was there . Your Caryota gigas was a fat boy 

[Hilo Jason]

Here's my Foxy Lady in Fallbrook.  Bought and planted in early 2010 (middle palm in this photo below): 

Last photo I have before I sold the property, this is 9 years later in 2019.  Too tall to get a photo of the entire palm. 

They seem to be fast when they are the real deal.  I bought several over the years that didn't seem to have the hybrid traits or vigor.  I called them Fake Ladies.  

[BS Man about Palms]

First I have seen this thread, but @Hilo Jason has touched on an opinion I've had for a long time. There is no guarantee of a hybrid palm when very young. Time is what will show the difference. Many small I've seen offered I would put in the "Fake Lady" category as Jason noted. 

IIRC, one of the original sources of these, Soledad nursery, would sow thousands of Veitchia seeds after they "discovered" some at their spot in Hawaii, and the ones that were outgrowing all the rest were the hybrids... they would toss the rest. 

Also, as noted above, if was noticed that a high percentage of the hybrids had variegation. While a good indicator it was a hybrid, they would grow so fast that you could guarantee it would be in the sun soon! Too much variegation made them look like a giant quasimodo  monster.  

But a non-variegated Foxy Lady is pretty awesome!  (I'll post mine soon.)

[BS Man about Palms]

Here's mine received in trade as a big 15 gal in maybe 2008? As seen this morning from my front window up stairs.