Sowing a few seeds

[happypalms]

I was lucky enough to get a good pollination on my  chuniophoenix nana palms this season hand pollinated with a artist brush done daily for around two weeks it seemed to work quite well as my mum said to me if you find something that you’re good at stick with it I had good luck germinating last seasons seeds they are flowering again now so shall repeat the same process this season such lovely colours in the garden although I did cover them with a plastic tree guard just to keep the rats and possum’s of them 

[happypalms]

A true collectors palm the Areca vestiaria  highly ornamental a small power wash was used to clean the flesh off the seeds coco peat perlite mixture with 30 degrees Celsius bottom heating will be the preferred method of propagation time will tell how many germinate 

[Navarro]

WoW cuanta semilla ,compré 10 semillas hace un mes en r p s . Para mi con mínimas de 1° están destinadas a ser plantas de interior 

Esas tuyas son cosecha propia?

[Navarro]

Compré *

[John hovancsek]

These never fail . Easy to germinate and fast growing 

[happypalms]

8 hours ago, John hovancsek said:

These never fail . Easy to germinate and fast growing 

Thanks John I certainly hope they all germinate they have been a wish list palm for 20 plus years I finally tracked some seeds down and am very grateful to the person who provided them to me and will always remember that person and hopefully I can return that favour ten fold to them I never forget when someone has done something out there Heart and kindness for me you meet certain people in your life for some reason or other and often wonder what stars or gods have aligned to make that happen 

[Kim]

I predict close to 100% germination.  My garden has a path lined with what was originally 36 individuals, and now there are a few more growing from between the stilt roots of the originals. So many seedlings ripped out of the ground over the years, it's kind of embarrassing. Mine are 'maroon form,' but not all seedlings are maroon-leaf. Perhaps 25-30% are typical green leaves. Good luck with your project, I'm confident in your success.

[happypalms]

51 minutes ago, Kim said:

I predict close to 100% germination.  My garden has a path lined with what was originally 36 individuals, and now there are a few more growing from between the stilt roots of the originals. So many seedlings ripped out of the ground over the years, it's kind of embarrassing. Mine are 'maroon form,' but not all seedlings are maroon-leaf. Perhaps 25-30% are typical green leaves. Good luck with your project, I'm confident in your success.

As they say one man’s or woman’s trash is another’s treasure what a weed to some is a wanted prize plant in a collection somewhere else thanks Kim iam sure it will be a red Areca city in my garden one day 

[peachy]

I have only ever seen the orange vestiara,  didn't know there was a red one too. Some people say there is a single trunk version of vestiara but I have only ever found clumping specimens, therefore never bothered with them.  If you get a red one with a single trunk please put my name on it.   

Peachy

[happypalms]

33 minutes ago, peachy said:

I have only ever seen the orange vestiara,  didn't know there was a red one too. Some people say there is a single trunk version of vestiara but I have only ever found clumping specimens, therefore never bothered with them.  If you get a red one with a single trunk please put my name on it.   

Peachy

Yes peachy I will do that I should have a spare one the red areca to me is the dream palm I always wanted I have one in the garden already it has taken me years to get a hold of these seeds I will never forget the person that gifted me with such seeds and hope one day to repay that gift ten fold if someone has helped me out I will always remember that help if only the world was as simple as it used to be we could all get along in the eden of the palm garden without a worry in the world 🌍 

[AcPalm]

On 10/2/2023 at 6:18 AM, peachy said:

I have only ever seen the orange vestiara,  didn't know there was a red one too. Some people say there is a single trunk version of vestiara but I have only ever found clumping specimens, therefore never bothered with them.  If you get a red one with a single trunk please put my name on it.   

Peachy

Here’s a picture of a red “maroon leaf” single one here in south Florida at nursery. Very pretty palm.

[happypalms]

Purchased a few magnifica seeds they will be propagated in coco coir perlite mixture bottom heating 30 degrees Celsius with the lid on a styrofoam box making complete darkness (etoliation) it’s easy to germinate joeys and grow them just water them a lot to get the best results and grow them in a hothouse with shade cloth over the top for best conditions they do love the heat and humidity they do tolerate the cold down to 2 degrees Celsius in the ground but to grow the successfully in the ground in my climate you must water and feed them constantly to purchase a Joey from me you have to be a gardener my babies are to precious to me to see them die in the hands of unskilled gardeners 

[peachy]

They're certainly an eye-catching species. I would have to multiply my yard by 4 to fit one in sadly. Definitely Murphy's Law here, when I had the space I had the wrong micro-climate. Now that I have the climate solved I no longer have any space for all the big palms I love.

Peachy

[happypalms]

1 minute ago, peachy said:

They're certainly an eye-catching species. I would have to multiply my yard by 4 to fit one in sadly. Definitely Murphy's Law here, when I had the space I had the wrong micro-climate. Now that I have the climate solved I no longer have any space for all the big palms I love.

Peachy

Oh peachy if I have one goal life that is to see you get another Joey in your collection it would take 20 plus years to out grow the room you have grow one in a container then my mission in life is complete 😄

[peachy]

4 minutes ago, happypalms said:

Oh peachy if I have one goal life that is to see you get another Joey in your collection it would take 20 plus years to out grow the room you have grow one in a container then my mission in life is complete 😄

An incompleted mission is a very sad thing indeed. I send you my sympathy.

Peachy

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, peachy said:

An incompleted mission is a very sad thing indeed. I send you my sympathy.

Peachy

Mission impossible well call it

[happypalms]

Purchased some trachycarpus princeps and sitijong var seeds and cycas deboensis cycas panzhihiansis  along with 120 lanonia hainanensis the trachycarpus will take a long time with a long ripening period and a low germination rate expected with no bottom heating just in a warm place in coco coir perlite mix the deboensis seeds with bottom heating 30 degrees Celsius coco coir perlite mix and the same for the lanonia seeds 30 degrees Celsius coco coir perlite mix time will tell how successful this will be 

[happypalms]

I was  fortunate enough to purchase some orania palindan seeds at PACSOA annual plant sale time will tell how successful they are in germinating and growing in my climate you gotta give it go being a true collector of palms with some winners and losers 

[peachy]

Just remember to wear gloves and wash your hands well after as these seeds are quite toxic to humans and animals.  I love the look of them, sort of like a large kentia but was worried about the flying foxes, birds and glider possums eating them so I never bought one.

Peachy

[happypalms]

44 minutes ago, peachy said:

Just remember to wear gloves and wash your hands well after as these seeds are quite toxic to humans and animals.  I love the look of them, sort of like a large kentia but was worried about the flying foxes, birds and glider possums eating them so I never bought one.

Peachy

Thanks for the tip they were already cleaned so the hard work was done for me 

[happypalms]

I purchased one hundred humillis seeds one of the questions I get asked is what have you got that will take frost  so it’s optimal for me to grow something that is cold hardy and the humillis fits into that market you cannot just grow what you only desire in the tropical exotics not everyone has those growing conditions for exotics while they still enjoy palms it seems only fair to supply such a market and there relatively slow growing so they won’t brake the growing budget giving a good return in the years to come hopefully 🤞 

[happypalms]

I was fortunate enough to come across some oraniopsis seeds one of my holy grail palms having only one in my garden being the one Australian palm that has eluded my little cultivation fingers for many years time will tell how many I get from around 150 seeds bottom heating 30 degrees Celsius coco coir perlite mix and patience for this little science project in my brain 

Richard 

[John hovancsek]

Please update us as soon as possible. I would love a grove of these but hard to get

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, John hovancsek said:

Please update us as soon as possible. I would love a grove of these but hard to get

Will do iam hoping I get a good strike rate they are extremely slow to grow in the subtropical climate 

[peachy]

8 hours ago, happypalms said:

Will do iam hoping I get a good strike rate they are extremely slow to grow in the subtropical climate 

I was given some seeds of this about 20 years ago and they took about 18 months to germinate. Actually I had given up on them, forgot they existed until looking for something in the shed and found tiny shoots.  They stayed in the seedling pots for a decade or so then were washed away in the big floods.

Peachy

[peachy]

9 hours ago, John hovancsek said:

Please update us as soon as possible. I would love a grove of these but hard to get

I hope you are less than 10 years old because these things take about 50 years before they get a trunk !

Peachy the Party Pooper

[happypalms]

8 minutes ago, peachy said:

I was given some seeds of this about 20 years ago and they took about 18 months to germinate. Actually I had given up on them, forgot they existed until looking for something in the shed and found tiny shoots.  They stayed in the seedling pots for a decade or so then were washed away in the big floods.

Peachy

Oh yeah you thought a wet week was slow try growing oraniopsis y one is twenty years plus old and only about two feet leaves but given plenty of water they soon pick up the pace they are a true water lover from what I have seen and been told 

[David B]

The blue plastic sheet is a heat pad?

[happypalms]

2 hours ago, David B said:

The blue plastic sheet is a heat pad?

Hi David the blue plastic is so the roots don’t grow into the styrofoam but yes I do place the styrofoam box’s on top of heat mats 

[Tyrone]

It will be interesting to see how you go with 30C to germinate them. I think that may be too high for this mountain species, but you seem to be able to germinate everything so I hope they come up well. Let us know how you go. 

[KrisKupsch]

On 5/5/2024 at 7:19 PM, peachy said:

I hope you are less than 10 years old because these things take about 50 years before they get a trunk !

Peachy the Party Pooper

Look up what they do in NZ. Doesn’t take that long with red soil and intermediate weather conditions there. 

[KrisKupsch]

23 hours ago, happypalms said:

Hi David the blue plastic is so the roots don’t grow into the styrofoam but yes I do place the styrofoam box’s on top of heat mats 

They hate root disturbance and definitely dont let the community pot grow long in the tooth or else youll loose them all on potting up. Ive more than a few community pots full of Oraniopsis that are destined to the compost heap in the sky. 

[happypalms]

26 minutes ago, KrisKupsch said:

They hate root disturbance and definitely dont let the community pot grow long in the tooth or else youll loose them all on potting up. Ive more than a few community pots full of Oraniopsis that are destined to the compost heap in the sky. 

Thanks Kris hopefully after learning on Johannesteijsmannia my little fingers don’t disturb them to much just tell a Joey you’re going to pot them up and they will die of fright we will see how I go with the oraniopsis first I have to germinate them that may the hard part 

[happypalms]

8 hours ago, Tyrone said:

It will be interesting to see how you go with 30C to germinate them. I think that may be too high for this mountain species, but you seem to be able to germinate everything so I hope they come up well. Let us know how you go. 

Thanks Tyrone I might turn the heat mat down to 26 degrees Celsius which is basically what the temperature is running at in the cool months they are set for 30 but with the cool night temperatures i only manage to get up to 27 degrees which is constantly running up the electricity bill trying to get to 30 degrees so 26 might be optimal if it creeps up above that it’s a bonus you learn something new every day 

[tim_brissy_13]

2 hours ago, KrisKupsch said:

Look up what they do in NZ. Doesn’t take that long with red soil and intermediate weather conditions there. 

Yeah the growth on the mountain/cloud forest type species in northern NZ is amazing. I saw 12 year old Ceroxylon, Parajubaea, C decipiens etc that were huge, like 8m+ tall. Oraniopsis are massively robust there. I think you’re spot on with the secret; rich, well draining soil, constantly moist and lack of temperature extremes. I’ve taken a lot of inspiration from NZ palm growing and I’m happy to say my Oraniopsis is happy and not that slow. It’s on a south facing fence under canopy so the sun never hits the soil around it. It stays moist all year. This photo is over a year old. I need to take a new one to show the growth. 
 

 

[happypalms]

4 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Yeah the growth on the mountain/cloud forest type species in northern NZ is amazing. I saw 12 year old Ceroxylon, Parajubaea, C decipiens etc that were huge, like 8m+ tall. Oraniopsis are massively robust there. I think you’re spot on with the secret; rich, well draining soil, constantly moist and lack of temperature extremes. I’ve taken a lot of inspiration from NZ palm growing and I’m happy to say my Oraniopsis is happy and not that slow. It’s on a south facing fence under canopy so the sun never hits the soil around it. It stays moist all year. This photo is over a year old. I need to take a new one to show the growth. 
 

 

They get rather large Tim I assume you have seen how large you’re backyard in the future is going to be  one big Palm jungle if you’re lucky enough you won’t have to mow the lawn 

[tim_brissy_13]

5 hours ago, happypalms said:

They get rather large Tim I assume you have seen how large you’re backyard in the future is going to be  one big Palm jungle if you’re lucky enough you won’t have to mow the lawn 

Hi, my name is Tim and I have a palm addiction. I plant too close together and too close to fences to maximise my collection 😆

[happypalms]

11 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Hi, my name is Tim and I have a palm addiction. I plant too close together and too close to fences to maximise my collection 😆

Welcome Tim to Palm addiction anonymous our goal is to help you buy more palms without fear of no room to plant your palms another of our main goals is buy 2000 acres of prime Sunshine Coast alluvial soil with a ocean view of course to plant all our leftover palms that won’t fit into gardens anymore without fear of killing them in the cold weather 🤣

[KrisKupsch]

On 5/7/2024 at 8:56 AM, happypalms said:

Thanks Kris hopefully after learning on Johannesteijsmannia my little fingers don’t disturb them to much just tell a Joey you’re going to pot them up and they will die of fright we will see how I go with the oraniopsis first I have to germinate them that may the hard part 

Last lot i left in a bucket and whole lot shot, kieren left some under his bed in a baggy that took 6 years but i dont understand that. Youll have some within 2-3M i guarantee it.

[happypalms]

7 hours ago, KrisKupsch said:

Last lot i left in a bucket and whole lot shot, kieren left some under his bed in a baggy that took 6 years but i dont understand that. Youll have some within 2-3M i guarantee it.

Iam confident they will germinate what iam not confident of is a trunk in 20 years time in my climate have you finished building that ark yet you know the bible to take with you The palms of New Guinea and two of every palm tree if the rain keeps coming