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Beer Fertilizer

metalfan

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metalfan Grand Master

metalfan

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Have any of you ever used, or heard of, BEER FERTILIZER? Its apparently been around for years and years.

Some folks I know who grow Epiphylums swear by it. They also swear it is fantastic on Hoyas and almost every other plant in existance.

The basic recipe is:

12 oz beer

1/2 c household ammonia

1 cup Mag Sulfate (as Epsom Salt)

2 cups water

You mix this up and use it 1 Tbsp/gallon dilution every week to 2 weeks.

The alcohol in the beer is supposed to be the key.

I already use a fertilizer on my orchids called Jerry's Grow that utilizes alcohol as a component, it works very well.

How do you think this would do on palms, if you added a bit of trace elements to the mix?

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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I've heard it works wonders on grass.  That's lawns, not, you know....grass..puff puff..

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Palmarum Grand Master

Palmarum

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Beer is a great acidifying fertilizer for almost all plants. I usually just use one can of beer with one gallon of water, but adding any liquid fertilizer would be a bonus. If you add even more ingredients, be sure to add a drop of honey to the mix. You can use any beer. Even old, flat beer works great and if you time it right, you can get as much as you want after parties and after a nearby bar closes. I have done this for a free fertilizer for many years after a veteran of gardening and horticulture told me about it when I was very young. So imagine a kid going into a bar, early in the morning before school started, carrying a large bucket. The expressions I got were well worth it.

P.S. Pickle Juice works just as well...

Ryan

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XYZ Experienced

XYZ

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Whatever.

Just remember that beer (flat, fizzy or otherwise constituted) is a fabulous attractant for slugs and snails. With all your aroids at ground level. I seriously doubt that you want to put a "Free Food Here" sign up for neighborhood slugs and snails.

What puzzles me about many (admittedly, not all) of these miracle formulas is that when you talk to professional ornamental growers about these cocktails, most have no time for them.

SJ

waykoolplantz Veteran

waykoolplantz

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i tried to resist...but..

one for you....one for me

two for you....two for me

three for you...three for me

Hhcc!!!    :P

The Palm Mahal

Hollywood Fla

sonoranfans Grand Master

sonoranfans

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(metalfan @ Oct. 18 2007,15:11)

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Have any of you ever used, or heard of, BEER FERTILIZER? Its apparently been around for years and years.

Some folks I know who grow Epiphylums swear by it. They also swear it is fantastic on Hoyas and almost every other plant in existance.

The basic recipe is:

12 oz beer

1/2 c household ammonia

1 cup Mag Sulfate (as Epsom Salt)

2 cups water

You mix this up and use it 1 Tbsp/gallon dilution every week to 2 weeks.

The alcohol in the beer is supposed to be the key.

I already use a fertilizer on my orchids called Jerry's Grow that utilizes alcohol as a component, it works very well.

How do you think this would do on palms, if you added a bit of trace elements to the mix?

I find that beer fertilizes my thirst just great.  Alcohol has no P, N or K, but it works for me.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

metalfan Grand Master

metalfan

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I thought I might try it on my houseplants first, then, maybe on a few test cases of hanging baskets of epiphyllums and stuff in the greenhouse.

I have no intention of pouring it all over the ground, lol.

There is an alternate recipe that excludes the beer completely and substitutes isopropyl alcohol, which is probably what Jerry's Grow orchid fertilizer has in it

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

Tad Grand Master

Tad

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i always thought it was the yeast that got the microbes in the soil going that was the benefeit of beer??

Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle.

Abraham Lincoln

The way of the transgressor is hard

Jon North Padre Island Enthusiast

Jon North Padre Island

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I think that this is a fascinating topic.  I can't think of a better thing to do with that stuff whose name includes the adjective "light".  

In my somewhat humble opinion, the most greatest advantage of living in extreme southern Calif is that the  fine Stone brewery is nearby.  Their IPA is one of my two most favorite libations.  The rather nice ale called "arrogant bastard" is also from the San Diego area if I am not mistaken.  

Anyhow, perhaps we should meet at Tads place in the Texas Rio Grande Valley and further discuss this topic with many samplings of different  brewers' products.  Tad (palmotrafficante) has a rather coool palapa very near the new sprig house he has been showing you all here on the board and is a great conversatialist.  I have never seen him without an opinion.

buen provecho!   :D

JTW

http://www.palmsocietysouthtexas.org

PADRE ISLAND

Barrier Island on the South Texas Coast

N 27 36'38"

W O97 14'21"

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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Beer can be excellent fertilizer, and, consumed, begets anothe fertilizer . . . .

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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BS Man about Palms Grand Master

BS Man about Palms

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What if the beer was recycled first?  Us gentlemen could do some pinpoint fertilising.....

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Tad Grand Master

Tad

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(Jon, North Padre Island @ Oct. 18 2007,20:37)

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I think that this is a fascinating topic.  I can't think of a better thing to do with that stuff whose name includes the adjective "light".  

In my somewhat humble opinion, the most greatest advantage of living in extreme southern Calif is that the  fine Stone brewery is nearby.  Their IPA is one of my two most favorite libations.  The rather nice ale called "arrogant bastard" is also from the San Diego area if I am not mistaken.  

Anyhow, perhaps we should meet at Tads place in the Texas Rio Grande Valley and further discuss this topic with many samplings of different  brewers' products.  Tad (palmotrafficante) has a rather coool palapa very near the new sprig house he has been showing you all here on the board and is a great conversatialist.  I have never seen him without an opinion.

buen provecho!   :D

Well now I just don't know what to say :)

Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle.

Abraham Lincoln

The way of the transgressor is hard

Jeff Searle Grand Master

Jeff Searle

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I'm wondering if someone like Dr. John Dransfield could offer any insight........are you out there?

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

metalfan Grand Master

metalfan

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The one thing that folks who religiously use this fertilizer on plants like hoyas and epiphyllums say is, it is too nitrogen heavy to help with blooming, but it produces tons of lush new growth and improves the color of leaves drastically (well, how could it help but do that with all the Magnesium, LOL?)

I am going to start a trial on some houseplant today. I am going to take a set of "before photos" and document the change (if any) on an ongoing basis.

This is what we WANTED to do for my daughter's 7th grade science project, but we ended up not being able to.

In order to use beer ("consumable alcohol") we would have had to submit an application for approval to the DEA.

And the Epsom Salts, Aqueous ammonia, and even substituting Isopropyl alcohol for the beer...all those are considered "Hazardous Chemicals" and needed prior approval from a committee.

Totally ridiculous.

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

fiji jim Veteran

fiji jim

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Sounds like a waste to me.

What say Wal ?

Located on Vanua Levu near Savusavu (16degrees South) Elevation from sealevel to 30meters with average annual rainfall of 2800mm (110in) with temperature from 18 to 34C (65 to 92F).

Alicehunter2000 Grand Master

Alicehunter2000

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(BS, Man about Palms @ Oct. 18 2007,21:27)

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What if the beer was recycled first?  Us gentlemen could do some pinpoint fertilising.....

I was thinking the same thing...........Can it be "used" beer? I know I bought palms from a guy in Homestead that swore by using the other waste product from humans. Seems you can buy this from Waste treatment facilities?

David Simms zone 9a on Highway 30a

200 steps from the Gulf in NW Florida

30 ft. elevation and sandy soil

deezpalms Grand Master

deezpalms

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(Jon, North Padre Island @ Oct. 18 2007,17:37)

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I think that this is a fascinating topic.  I can't think of a better thing to do with that stuff whose name includes the adjective "light".  

In my somewhat humble opinion, the most greatest advantage of living in extreme southern Calif is that the  fine Stone brewery is nearby.  Their IPA is one of my two most favorite libations.  The rather nice ale called "arrogant bastard" is also from the San Diego area if I am not mistaken.  

Anyhow, perhaps we should meet at Tads place in the Texas Rio Grande Valley and further discuss this topic with many samplings of different  brewers' products.  Tad (palmotrafficante) has a rather coool palapa very near the new sprig house he has been showing you all here on the board and is a great conversatialist.  I have never seen him without an opinion.

buen provecho!   :D

Arrogant Bastard is a Stone Brewery creation as well my thirsty friend!  :P

Dave Hughson

Carlsbad, Ca

1 mile from ocean

Zone 10b

Palm freaks are good peeps!!!!!

MattyB Grand Master

MattyB

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If I eat Betlenut and drink beer will Areca catechu sprout in my tummy?  I'll let you know when I come down from this tree.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

metalfan Grand Master

metalfan

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Actually, in my case, it would have to be a wine fertilizer, because I don't drink beer (hiccup...)

"You can't see California without Marlon Brando's eyes"---SliPknot

 

palmazon Mentor

palmazon

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Beer fertilizer? A mythical figment of somebody's fantasy - like aphrodisiac lovehandles...

I get by with a little help from my fronds

palmazon Mentor

palmazon

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And Matt - betel is a known oral carcinogen, so lay off, unless your wife doesn't mind kissing bare chiclets (after your labiotomy)...

I get by with a little help from my fronds

palmazon Mentor

palmazon

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(Alicehunter2000 @ Oct. 19 2007,15:12)

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I know I bought palms from a guy in Homestead that swore by using the other waste product from humans. Seems you can buy this from Waste treatment facilities?

Kellog's Nitrohumus™ is 'sterilized' sewage sludge - they bag it down in Carson.

I get by with a little help from my fronds

DoomsDave Grand Master

DoomsDave

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(palmazon @ Oct. 19 2007,22:04)

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(Alicehunter2000 @ Oct. 19 2007,15:12)

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I know I bought palms from a guy in Homestead that swore by using the other waste product from humans. Seems you can buy this from Waste treatment facilities?

Kellog's Nitrohumus™ is 'sterilized' sewage sludge - they bag it down in Carson.

Much else gets bagged in Carson!

He he ehee hee hee . . . . . ick

Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply.

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