Canary Island Date Palm in Carlsbad NM (and other palms that I could feasibly grow)

[gdumea]

Hi all,

 

I'm moving to Carlsbad, NM from North Dakota. Originally from Florida, so I grew up around palms, and would like to landscape my yard with them. What will grow here? I know we have some Washingtonia Filiferas, Windmill Palms I've also seen here and there in the area, but mainly Washingtonias and some Sabal Minors/Needle Palms. What grows here reliably? I believe we're Zone 8a, but it's a dry, chihuahuan desert 8a.  I really love the Canary Island Date Palm, and surprisingly have heard of people having good luck with them in Odessa/Midland area. Can I grow one there?

Edited July 13, 2023 by gdumea
Clarifying

[Tom in Tucson]

I think these will do well there:

Brahea berlandieri

Sabal x brazoriensis

Sabal mexicana

Sabal sp. Tamaulipas

Trithrinax campestris 

Hi 109˚, Lo 87˚

[Silas_Sancona]

On 7/13/2023 at 7:38 PM, Tom in Tucson said:

I think these will do well there:

Brahea berlandieri

Sabal x brazoriensis

Sabal mexicana

Sabal sp. Tamaulipas

Trithrinax campestris 

Hi 109˚, Lo 87˚

Sabal uresana,  particularly the blue / silvery " Highland / Inland " form   could be added to that list as well..  Coastal " Green " form may be just a tad too cold sensitive for 8a.  ( i'd be tempted to try it though )

[fr8train]

50 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Sabal uresana,  particularly the blue / silvery " Highland / Inland " form   could be added to that list as well..  Coastal " Green " form may be just a tad too cold sensitive for 8a.  ( i'd be tempted to try it though )

Where do you get the highland form? Like seeds or plants? 

[Silas_Sancona]

Just now, fr8train said:

Where do you get the highland form? Like seeds or plants? 

I could be wrong but thought the specimens growing in the John Fairey Garden ( ..formally Peckerwood ) Near Houston were the highland form. Extremely blue regardless..  They survived the '21 freeze there as well.

Here's a couple threads containing pictures from the garden of their S. uresana specimens:
 

 

  A couple gardens / U of AZ Campus Arboretum's collection here in AZ have silvery / blue specimens in their collections as well.

Tricky thing is there are also green form specimens in the same gardens. Not sure which form is in the campus arboretum's collection though.   ...So i'll have to wait to see which direction my seedlings go. 
 

[SailorBold]

Here's mine.. hoping for the Highland form...   I know it's not a canary but.. just adding..

[gdumea]

Does anyone know if I could feasibly grow Mexican Fan Palms or California Fan Palms in full sun/partial shade? Looks like that's what the local nursery is selling, my only concern is that my backyard has a mature canopy of trees. I'll have to find less shaded spots and try to plant. Any advice?

[jwitt]

3 hours ago, gdumea said:

Does anyone know if I could feasibly grow Mexican Fan Palms or California Fan Palms in full sun/partial shade? Looks like that's what the local nursery is selling, my only concern is that my backyard has a mature canopy of trees. I'll have to find less shaded spots and try to plant. Any advice?

Deciduous or evergreen trees? Type of trees?

No on the Mexican palms, longer answer forthcoming.

[gdumea]

@jwittDeciduous, not sure on the type, I have a bunch of very mature trees that look like oak trees around my fence line. My backyard is south facing. I was told by the nursery staff that I'd have no problem and that the palms would "grow through them". I was told that I could plant any of the El Paso palms in Carlsbad. That included Filiferas, Robustas, Phoenix, and pretty much everything else including pindos and medi fan palms.