Hedyscepe canturburyana

[Tassie_Troy1971]

Here is my Hedyscepe canturburyana 

Grown from seed germinated in 2010 collected from Pogobob garden in San Clemente Ca.

It's an easy grow in my cool humid oceanic climate record low in the garden 31f record high 96f  

 

 

[Tassie_Troy1971]

A younger specimen from the same seed source 

[PalmatierMeg]

Such a beautiful palm. Thanks for the photos

[bubba]

Wish we could grow this beautiful palm!

[tim_brissy_13]

Palm perfection!

[Billeb]

Hedyscepe is one of my top 3 palms. It’s so hard to beat the look. They really are perfect looking.
 

I’ve got three procured from different sources. They are all smaller but picking up speed. I’ll post pics today if I get a chance. @Tassie_Troy1971, seed from Bob’s could very well have the best lineage. You are very lucky. Congrats 
 

-dale 

[BayAndroid]

Wish I could grow these, but I always stop myself from buying, because my temps get to 26 to 27 a couple times a year and I think it's enough to not make it. 😒

[Jim in Los Altos]

Lookin’ good, Troy! Here’s mine. Have had it since a very tiny seedling WAY back when. Has endured a high of 46°C. (115°F) and lots and lots of mid to upper 90s over the years. Cool nights are the savior. 
 

Edited June 14, 2023 by Jim in Los Altos

[tinman10101]

ill say it a million times ... those are the perfect textbook specimens troy!!

[Billeb]

Partially embarrassed posting these as they are nowhere near others but here ya go. The largest is my baby. Planted out as a 5G 2yrs ago….it’s grown leaps and bounds. The smallest looks ratty but I killed one by cleaning it up so I try really hard to let things happen on their own. The middle sized is really stretched and I don’t have a place for it yet. 
 

-dale 

 

 

[Tassie_Troy1971]

On 6/14/2023 at 12:18 PM, tinman10101 said:

ill say it a million times ... those are the perfect textbook specimens troy!!

Thanks although I don't do anything special just regularly water and good compost 

 

[Palm Tree Jim]

Never had any luck with this palm in Southern California.

Well grown to all of you growing this with success.

[TomJ]

A must have for California growers.

They grow slow and rarely available bigger than a one gallon.

They like as much water as you can give them.

Roystonia-ish

[Darold Petty]

I have grown several, including one that achieved about 10 feet of true trunk before dying from a root disease.  I believe that this species is  variable in vigor, some plants are great, and some 'also-rans' .   Howea, on the other hand, seems to be very regular, with little difference between individuals.

[Billeb]

6 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

I have grown several, including one that achieved about 10 feet of true trunk before dying from a root disease.  I believe that this species is  variable in vigor, some plants are great, and some 'also-rans' .   Howea, on the other hand, seems to be very regular, with little difference between individuals.

I find this accurate. My largest has grown great. My smallest.…I’m still waiting for it to get its feet and take off.  Nothin’ yet but to its defense…the largest took a year+ before I saw any noticeable growth at all. Maybe longer. 
 

Before purchasing, I heard they are absolute snails until they get to at least a healthy 5G size. This has been true in my experience. 
 

-dale 

[tinman10101]

there was a theory posed some years back about hedy rockets and hedy runts.  i find this theory to be true ... unfortunately, i have been unlucky to always get a runt until recently.  my runt which was planted about 10 years ago looks exactly the same in size... 🤬 

[Billeb]

1 hour ago, tinman10101 said:

there was a theory posed some years back about hedy rockets and hedy runts.  i find this theory to be true ... unfortunately, i have been unlucky to always get a runt until recently.  my runt which was planted about 10 years ago looks exactly the same in size... 🤬 

Tin, I’d dig that thing and move it. Another hear say point to note is they are very temperamental on location and sun tolerance. For this reason I planted a couple in different exposures to hedge my bets. They are just too pretty a palm to not go the extra effort. @Tassie_Troy1971 ‘s plant can attest to that. 
 

-dale 

[The Palm Nut]

Nice looking palm that does well in your area. Never seen these for sale in Port or anywhere, nor in any garden apart from botanical gardens.

You have a tropical garden in Tassie, quite impressive!

Cheers Mike

[surfermatt]

Beautiful contributions. Here is my tiny tiny contribution that is on its third leaf. It’s shown a ton of sun tolerance, and so I decided to just plant it. This was a very kind gift from Mr. Petty in San Francisco. My neighbors construction fence and my yard construction not making it look the best…. With some new alstroemeria to fill the space.  This is one of my 2 year olds favorite palms since it was one she could carry around the yard haha. One day! 

[Billeb]

1 hour ago, surfermatt said:

 

 

Matt, long road ahead for that little guy. It’s got great genes so hopefully it does well for you. 
Nice Dammaropsis also. Mine has exploded since putting it in the ground 2yrs ago. 
 

-dale 

[Darold Petty]

"This was a very kind gift from Mr. Petty in San Francisco. "

Please, just call me Darold !   

[PalmCode]

They love a good blood, bone and seaweed mix fertilizer with mulching. Slow growing to start off, but they speed up if they like their location, I get 2-3 new leaves a year. This one in a pot has a nice droopy look going on.

[mnorell]

This is to my mind one of the real beauties of the palm world, and these gorgeous specimens bear that out! And yet so many in the cooler growing zones wring their hands over trying to grow a coconut! I say, enjoy your Hedyscepe canterburyana, your Howea forsteriana, your Rhopalostylis baueri. You are among the lucky few that can live in a forest of these magnificent palms!

Is seed readily produced, or hard to procure on this species? It seems like some determined grower could set aside an area (maybe interspersed among, ahem, those quick-to-the-cash-register queen palms) to grow large quantities of these and try to promote them through various gardening/landscape channels. It would certainly be a noble effort, if not immediately profitable. I think the charming aspect of these when young mitigates the issues of slow growth. If I were in the appropriate zone, I would try to plant scores of them in various (small) sizes interspersed among faster-growing but perhaps shorter-lived landscape items. This is the way I treat Thrinax and Coccothrinax. I enjoy their attractive qualities when young and let them grow at their own pace with the hopes that I will someday see their adult form, but take a "don't sweat it" attitude...the time will pass.

[Tyrone]

18 minutes ago, mnorell said:

This is to my mind one of the real beauties of the palm world, and these gorgeous specimens bear that out! And yet so many in the cooler growing zones wring their hands over trying to grow a coconut! I say, enjoy your Hedyscepe canterburyana, your Howea forsteriana, your Rhopalostylis baueri. You are among the lucky few that can live in a forest of these magnificent palms!

Is seed readily produced, or hard to procure on this species? It seems like some determined grower could set aside an area (maybe interspersed among, ahem, those quick-to-the-cash-register queen palms) to grow large quantities of these and try to promote them through various gardening/landscape channels. It would certainly be a noble effort, if not immediately profitable. I think the charming aspect of these when young mitigates the issues of slow growth. If I were in the appropriate zone, I would try to plant scores of them in various (small) sizes interspersed among faster-growing but perhaps shorter-lived landscape items. This is the way I treat Thrinax and Coccothrinax. I enjoy their attractive qualities when young and let them grow at their own pace with the hopes that I will someday see their adult form, but take a "don't sweat it" attitude...the time will pass.

I agree with you. You would think that in Australian southern areas they’d be fairly easy to find but they are extremely rare to completely unheard of. I’ve got plans to do exactly what you’ve said, but it will be a long time before local seed is produced. I think they are much more available in New Zealand but at a mega premium and justifiably so. Seed is very hard to get and LHI is just not interested in spreading the species or even growing it themselves. 

[Darold Petty]

Nothin'  to add, just some eye candy.....

[Tyrone]

11 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

Nothin'  to add, just some eye candy.....

Is it yours Darold? That’s definite eye candy. 

[Darold Petty]

Certainly, I seldom post images that are not mine !

[Tyrone]

2 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

Certainly, I seldom post images that are not mine !

Darold, you are the Hedyscepe King of Northern California.

[Darold Petty]

[Darold Petty]

Not mine, here is a wild one !

[tim_brissy_13]

Here’s mine. Still gets sunburn as I’m waiting patiently for the Howea forsteriana and Archontophoenix cunninghamiana canopy to grow above it. 

[tim_brissy_13]

And check out these photos from a nursery in Kerikeri NZ when I visited a few years back. I was completely blown away. Despite being an Aus native, Hedyscepe is completely unavailable here. To see them readily available and grown to perfection at a nursery - had to be seen to be believed! There were 100s growing. 

[tinman10101]

pauleen's iconic hedys ... i believe these were planted in the early 80's, correct @Darold Petty?  

note:  those are "baby" seedlings at the bottom near the trunk.

 

[Darold Petty]

Yes, there used to be three here.

[Billeb]

1 hour ago, tinman10101 said:

pauleen's iconic hedys ... i believe these were planted in the early 80's, correct @Darold Petty?  

 

I was told my smallest came from these trees. Pretty well respected dude so I believe him but I can’t be 100% sure. 
 

-dale 

[Aloha Palms]

1 hour ago, tinman10101 said:

pauleen's iconic hedys ... i believe these were planted in the early 80's, correct @Darold Petty?  

note:  those are "baby" seedlings at the bottom near the trunk.

 

Are those trees still there?

[tinman10101]

3 minutes ago, Aloha Palms said:

Are those trees still there?

Yup ... Well taken a year ago.

[tinman10101]

28 minutes ago, Billeb said:

I was told my smallest came from these trees. Pretty well respected dude so I believe him but I can’t be 100% sure. 
 

-dale 

Well they will have great genes then 😁.  There aren't many fruiting hedys in Socal for sure. 

I forgot to take pics at the base but there are tons of seedlings sprouted with larger babies that get weed whacked regularly by the gardeners. They are truly amazing in person and receive coastal weather daily hence why they grow so well. 

[mnorell]

1 hour ago, tinman10101 said:

pauleen's iconic hedys ... i believe these were planted in the early 80's, correct @Darold Petty?  

note:  those are "baby" seedlings at the bottom near the trunk.

 

Wow, look at all that fruit!! Seems like someone needs to talk to Pauleen's family and make a deal to get those seeds into the pipeline for a future forest...

I remember those from back in the late '80s/early '90s and they were much, much smaller but still had some trunk as I remember. So possibly they were planted more like in the '70s?? I've got a picture somewhere from back in the day, and will have to go looking amidst my scans...

[Dusty CBAD]