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Chambeyronia Macrocarpa care in Florida zone 9b/10a

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I have a 1 gallon C. Macrocarpa (~2 ft tall) that I have been acclimating to full sun for about 4 hrs per day  since early January of this year. It isn’t showing any leaf burn and is pushing up a new spear.  I would like to move to a different spot and plant it in the ground. In the new spot it will get about 6-8hrs/day of full sun and would get even longer exposure to full sun later in the summer. If I move to full sun at this stage, do I just need to make sure I water heavily every day?  Or, would you expect it to get cooked and die regardless of watering due to full sun exposure for 8+ hrs. 

39 minutes ago, 813PalmsnCycads said:

I have a 1 gallon C. Macrocarpa (~2 ft tall) that I have been acclimating to full sun for about 4 hrs per day  since early January of this year. It isn’t showing any leaf burn and is pushing up a new spear.  I would like to move to a different spot and plant it in the ground. In the new spot it will get about 6-8hrs/day of full sun and would get even longer exposure to full sun later in the summer. If I move to full sun at this stage, do I just need to make sure I water heavily every day?  Or, would you expect it to get cooked and die regardless of watering due to full sun exposure for 8+ hrs. 

I would expect it would not survive full Florida sun at that age, or for a bunch of years to come, regardless of the water provided.   They need a lot of protection at that age, and well beyond.   Late day sun will fry them to death here, and they are too slow to recover.  

Look for a spot with morning sun or dappled sun for that one.   Get a sun-lover for a spot that has 8+ hours of exposure.  

Chambeyronia are understory palms in habitat so they need shade until several years old even in cooler climates. Even mature specimens look better in full to partial shade than ones in full sun. I think planting a one gallon specimen in full afternoon Florida sun will be a death sentence. 

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In the Tampa area you *might* be able to get away with 6-8 hours of sun.  Last summer there were a lot of threads with Flamethrowers getting torched and killed in the hot afternoon sun.  There were a few issues with just overall too much sun and also with white reflective walls/concrete nearby.  I did "okay" with a couple that were 2-3' tall and in nearly full sun from about 9AM-4PM.  They suffered sunburn in the May and October heatwaves, but then were killed the first winter by frost in the upper 20s. 

Right now I have some 1-2' tall seedlings in deep shade on the West side of the yard, and a triple 3-6' tall in summer shade in the South side of my house.  I picked that spot because it's about 5' from the South-facing wall and they get lots of sun from November-March and are then in heavy shade from April-October.  They are all doing great and only take moderate damage in the >27F temperatures, due to proximity to the house and canopy.

@Looking Glassis spot on. A 1g Chambeyronia can’t take hours of full FL sun

Meg

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Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

1g is too small for many palms if you have sandy soil, but erspecially a macrocarpa, widest leaflets of the genus.  WIder leaves generally mean less sun tolerance within a genus.  C. Macrocarpa is the least sun tolerant of the chambeyronias so, I would just grow it out in mostly shade( 2 hrs/dayu sun or less)..  I have grown 4 species chambeyronias here and I woulnt even consider a planting one of less than 7 gallons in my part sandy soil.  All of mine burn with 6 hours of sun except chanbeyronia oliviformis, which is a much tougher palm and likes sunlight.  MY 7 gallon hookeris burned a bit in ~4 hrs of direct sun, but they look like they are pulling through nicely with newer leaves as the sun shifts north the hrs of sun has dropped.  If you need sun tolerance, oliviformis is the best one, though it does not exhibit an emergent red leaf, its still a beautiful palm

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

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Thanks all!  I will be keeping this one in the shade for at least the next few years based on all of the helpful replies.  Hopefully some of my faster growing plants will be able to create some additional shade for me in the meantime. 

12 hours ago, 813PalmsnCycads said:

Thanks all!  I will be keeping this one in the shade for at least the next few years based on all of the helpful replies.  Hopefully some of my faster growing plants will be able to create some additional shade for me in the meantime. 

Out of curiosity, where did you get it from?

Howdy 🤠

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4 hours ago, RedRabbit said:

Out of curiosity, where did you get it from?

I found it at Island Bamboo Garden in Pinellas Park in either December or January.  

23 minutes ago, 813PalmsnCycads said:

I found it at Island Bamboo Garden in Pinellas Park in either December or January.  

Thanks, I’ll stop by when I’m in the area next.

Howdy 🤠

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