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Oahu Palm ID

GoatLockerGuns

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GoatLockerGuns Mentor

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Are these Pritchardia sp.? Possibly Pritchardia hillebrandii? Seen at Schofield Barracks on the Island of Oahu, Hawaii.

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

Billy Mentor

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Sure is! Scholfield Barracks…lots of memories passing through on the way to the NS

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JLM Grand Master

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I cant positively ID what exactly the palms are, besides the fact that they are beautiful!

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Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorata, 1 BxJ, 1 BxJxBxS, 1 BxS, 1 Chamaerops humilis, 1 Chamaedorea microspadix, 1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltii, 1 Livistona chinensis, 1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis, 2 Phoenix roebelenii, 2 Ravenea rivularis, 1 Rhapis excelsa, 1 Sabal bermudana, 3 Sabal palmetto, 4 Syagrus romanzoffiana, 5 Trachycarpus fortunei, 4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 34

DoomsDave Grand Master

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Pritchardtias for sure!

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Kim Grand Master

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Definitely Pritchardia, but all I can say is not P. pacifica.

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and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
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quaman58 Grand Master

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The crinkled leaves make me think they are maideniana. They have a unique, desiccated look to them.

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Bret

 

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GoatLockerGuns Mentor

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I saw this one on Bellows AFB today. Dwarf presentation; strong costapalmate fronds; serious white powdery substance (possibly totem) on petioles and bottom of fronds; no noticeable teeth on the petioles.

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

image.png.2a6e16e02a0a8bfb8a478ab737de4bb1.png

(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

Frond-friend42 Veteran

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Pritchardias never have teeth. I agree the first two look like maideniana and/or hillebrandtii. I think the first one is a less-glaucous (for hillebrandii)and less wavy (pinched almost, in the case of maideniana) and the second one looks like maideniana to me.

These are in the medium-sized,  small-seeded, non-droopy-tipped, intrapetiolar inflorescence (not sticking way out like kaale or thurstonii) group of loulus. 

I'm less sure about the last one.

 

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On 3/25/2023 at 8:56 PM, Frond-friend42 said:

Pritchardias never have teeth. I agree the first two look like maideniana and/or hillebrandtii.

Concur.  The only reason I assumed Pritchardia hillebrandtii is because the University of Hawaii Native Plants website states that, "Loulu lelo [Pritchardia hillebrandtii] is one of the more commonly seen native Pritchardia's seen in botanical gardens, commercial settings, and in residents." (see UH Native Plants Site).

 

It is so hard to tell with these guys.  Seeds size seems the best way to me.  Waimea Valley has a great selection of Pritchardia spp.; however, it is very difficult to differentiate them without reading the labels attached.  Some of them there are mysteries to the proprietors as well, as there are a few labels that just say "Pritchardia genus."

 

I understand they hybridize regularly/easily as well.

 

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

image.png.2a6e16e02a0a8bfb8a478ab737de4bb1.png

(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

Frond-friend42 Veteran

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Yes the potential for hybridization in an already difficult group to ID is a frustrating prospect.  I'm not familiar with any of the hybrids.

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