Updated pics of my Dypsis mystery

[junglegalfla]

It just shed another frond sheath so I figured I'd post an update. It's holding 2 remaining cold damaged spears. I bought it from Frank at the USF sale in spring.

It's thrown 2 full fronds and is pushing a third, each one getting longer. The base has fattened up nicely as well. I will be planting this one out next spring now that I know it can handle full FL afternoon sun. Still no clue on it's parentage.

The sheltie is for scale  

[metalfan]

Palm is very nice, of course I have no idea what it is, your little dog is supersweet looking!

[junglegalfla]

Thanks she's a 35 lb bundle of energy. Her nickname is Moose. She is suppose to look like this but she makes me sneeze!  

Notice theres a majesty palm in the pic?  ::

[Breadfruit Bill]

I'm sure Big Moosey doesn't mind a haircut in our hot weather...  Love the Dypsis, I'm eager to find out what it is!

[Phil]

Bren,

It's those "unknown species" that I find really exciting.  I figure there's two possibilities at least.  First, the seed collector just couldn't figure out what it was.  He missed that it was something described and well known.  The Second is that it is indeed something wierd, different, or undescribed.  The latter makes for real fun.  At our PSSC auction Saturday, I sold off an "unknown Dypsis" that had been donated.  To me this is fun and one big mystery sandwich.  Most people in the crowd (it seemed) thought "Why would I buy something if no one knows what it is?".  I thought just the opposite.  Perhaps it was Bill Sanford that (being a true palm guy) bought it.  And, maybe Bill will be sharing photos in a few years just like with your plant.  Nothing perks up this discussion group more than photos of beautiful plants that even the experts can't ID.

Phil

[redant]

I agree with Phil, the unknown is more interesting.

Nice looking whatever it is.

Is that fuzz in the crown shaft?

I would guess a mix of Dypsis leptocheilos & something else.

[Walter John]

Place two clear bottles of water either side of the mystery palm, this will deter the dog and make it clearer to determine the species name.

I'm not certain this will work.

[cfkingfish]

It looks like a solitary version of Dypsis sp. "Mayotte", but honestly it could be anything.  

[junglegalfla]

yep, that is heavy red fuzz on the crownshaft

This palm was sold to Frank as a D. cabadae.  That means the seed looked similar yeah? I assume this was grown from seed. Alan do you know?

Other possible IDs have been

D. cabadae x madagascariensis

Dypsis rivularis

D. lucubensis X leptocheilos

D. cabadae x. leptocheilos

Pinanga speciosa, madagascariensis/ambositrae (fine leaf) *Alan in Tampa said if it was a pinanga, he was a potato chip.  

Phil you are so right! I'm just enjoying the ride w/ this palm, it sure is nice to look at!

[Phil]

Bren,

I guess if it was easy, we'd know exactly what our kids would look like before they were born.  The fuzz certainly rings of leptocheilos or lastelliana.  But, the central crown looks a little "decaryi-ish".  Now, it's nothing like the photos of this hybrid we've seen.  Nor is it pure cabade.  So, we must go further.  If it was sold as "cabade" (and it isn't pure cabade), then perhaps the leptocheilos X cabade is appealing.  The trunk fits.  Will it sucker?  Time will tell.   If I imagine a fine leaf cross, this is not what I'd expect.  And you say if it's a Pinanga,  Frank says he's a potato chip.  Could you please post a picture of Frank.  Perhaps this will help us.

Phil

[BS Man about Palms]

(Phil @ Sep. 27 2007,06:03)

QUOTE

Bren,

It's those "unknown species" that I find really exciting.  I figure there's two possibilities at least.  First, the seed collector just couldn't figure out what it was.  He missed that it was something described and well known.  The Second is that it is indeed something wierd, different, or undescribed.  The latter makes for real fun.  At our PSSC auction Saturday, I sold off an "unknown Dypsis" that had been donated.  To me this is fun and one big mystery sandwich.  Most people in the crowd (it seemed) thought "Why would I buy something if no one knows what it is?".  I thought just the opposite.  Perhaps it was Bill Sanford that (being a true palm guy) bought it.  And, maybe Bill will be sharing photos in a few years just like with your plant.  Nothing perks up this discussion group more than photos of beautiful plants that even the experts can't ID.

Phil

Yep- Twas me. I do like the stuff that no one else has....