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No it’s not a foot away from fence even though it looks like it. It’s 6 feet away. 
 

Predict how large and how old I will get this palm. 

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Tough call on how long.   Without protection 2-5 years.  With 7-10

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11 minutes ago, Allen said:

Tough call on how long.   Without protection 2-5 years.  With 7-10

Some made it a lot longer than 10 prior to 2021. There were some big ones that had made it over 20. 
 

It could die next winter or make it unfazed the next 10 years. It’s so up and down here. Some winter we essentially have a high 9b almost zone 10 winter. Others zone 8. 
 

It’s also protected on the south side of my house. 

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First let me start by saying thats a great picture, total main character moment! Haha

I would say hopefully 10 without substantial protection, but again the weather does what it wants, but I think It can last as long as you want it if you protect it right of course.

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Best of luck! There were some gorgeous queens in SATX area prior to 2021, so definitely worth a shot 

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13 minutes ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Best of luck! There were some gorgeous queens in SATX area prior to 2021, so definitely worth a shot 

They were.  They are totally worth it, even knowing they are very iffy for San Antonio.

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And here is a Filifera I grew from seed several years ago. You’ve seen my big front yard one, this is my next best palm. This palm had zero damage in Dec 22 and did not completely defoliate in Feb 21  

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1 hour ago, NBTX11 said:

And here is a Filifera I grew from seed several years ago. You’ve seen my big front yard one, this is my next best palm. This palm had zero damage in Dec 22 and did not completely defoliate in Feb 21  

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That's a great palm (The Filifera).  In TX 8b maybe you're right on the queen.  

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be sure to give it lots of water for more plumose leaves

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I agree what Little Tex said . As long as you want . If you're willing to protect it (when necessary) you can enjoy this palm for a very very long time.  Just follow my advice deep water it before the next freeze and put extra layer mulch around the base. Frost cloth maybe some Christmas lights and you're all set for the severe freeze.  

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2 hours ago, Allen said:

Tough call on how long.   Without protection 2-5 years.  With 7-10

Queen palms can be hardier than you think. Here's my small Queen still recovering from lows of 16,21,24,28F.  Growing the second spear now. Bucket and a thin bed sheet for protection that's it. I think that's impressive.  Also I have a pygmy that also survived the freeze and that's a 10a zone palm.  My motto as always deep watered before the freeze and add extra mulch to it. It worked for me. Last picture you can see my pygmy in front of my filibusta.  I'm going to put it in a pot tomorrow I think it does better in a pot over here.  On the right there's my 5 ft tall Queen,  my second one. Queens are fine in San Antonio just need some protection once in a while. 

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2 hours ago, NBTX11 said:

Predict how large and how old I will get this palm. 

I had to re-read that several times, focusing specifically on the last two words. 😄

I think you can expect 40 plus feet from one of these.

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46 minutes ago, Allen said:

That's a great palm (The Filifera).  In TX 8b maybe you're right on the queen.  

I consider myself 9a since the long term average is right at 20.  8b, 9a who's counting.  There are pockets of 9a in downtown Austin 52 miles north of me.

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5 hours ago, NBTX11 said:

No it’s not a foot away from fence even though it looks like it. It’s 6 feet away. 
 

Predict how large and how old I will get this palm. 

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4 hours ago, NBTX11 said:

And here is a Filifera I grew from seed several years ago. You’ve seen my big front yard one, this is my next best palm. This palm had zero damage in Dec 22 and did not completely defoliate in Feb 21  

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Is it just me or are you frowning? Also nice palms! Wonder if the queen will survive the next texas winter.

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52 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

 

Is it just me or are you frowning? Also nice palms! Wonder if the queen will survive the next texas winter.

I'm just standing there dude.  Not frowning or smiling.  You do realize we had massive queen palms around just two years ago, right.

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3 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

I had to re-read that several times, focusing specifically on the last two words. 😄

I think you can expect 40 plus feet from one of these.

Ha ha, yeah I didn't word that very well.  I should have said predict how big this palm will get.

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8 hours ago, NBTX11 said:

I'm just standing there dude.  Not frowning or smiling.  You do realize we had massive queen palms around just two years ago, right.

Sorry, I've been only in palm talk for about three weeks already I think. But I can't really imagine a queen palm growing in texas, although you guys live in texas, so you guys know what palms grow there and what the is climate better than me.

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34 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Sorry, I've been only in palm talk for about three weeks already I think. But I can't really imagine a queen palm growing in texas, although you guys live in texas, so you guys know what palms grow there and what the is climate better than me.

Well I don’t live in North Texas so I have that going in my favor. 

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Good for you.

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44 minutes ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Sorry, I've been only in palm talk for about three weeks already I think. But I can't really imagine a queen palm growing in texas, although you guys live in texas, so you guys know what palms grow there and what the is climate better than me.

Living in a frigid climate like Chicago im sure its hard to imagine growing any palm! 

 

Here's a few pics of some queen palms in San Antonio prior to the 2021 freeze.

 

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From what I see people are growing in similar climates in the South, I really can imagine if you're lucky with the winters OR have the ability to protect it enough when you're not lucky then you will have chances of a real long term palm. 10 years + and a couple of meters in height! :greenthumb: Good luck!

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Somewhere between 8 months and 20 years and to a possible height of too tall to protect. Acts of god occur, but hopefully Texas will avoid an extreme deep-freeze for another 70+ years.

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6 hours ago, ChicagoPalma said:

Sorry, I've been only in palm talk for about three weeks already I think. But I can't really imagine a queen palm growing in texas, although you guys live in texas, so you guys know what palms grow there and what the is climate better than me.

All across the RGV there are huge 40-50 foot queens everywhere probably the most common pinnate palm in texas because of the concentration of them in the valley.  Almost none of them died there in 2021 which was a 8b winter, so they should be fine, besides there is a 2021 survior 3 houses down from me in 9a thats 15 feet tall!

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1 hour ago, amh said:

Somewhere between 8 months and 20 years and to a possible height of too tall to protect. Acts of god occur, but hopefully Texas will avoid an extreme deep-freeze for another 70+ years.

8 months would be early Nov. if we get a deep freeze in November we will have a bad winter!

But yes I’m fully aware it’s on borrowed time. I plan to get this palm huge. 

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Februar 2021 was a very unique long winter storm that happens one in 50 to 100 years.  Apparently some Queens survived in Houston and maybe even here at someone's yard here in San Antonio I don't know.  We're good just protect if it gets down to 20F.  

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