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Syagrus hoehnei & weddelliana

realarch
realarch
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Just a few pictures of each, they were looking happy with the recent rainfall. The first two photos are of S. hoehnei which has a more upright leaf habit, and the S. weddelliana showing a weeping look. They both get a fair bit of sun.

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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    Great looking happy palms. I have the S. hoehnei as a small plant. How long have yours been in ground?

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    Jeff, they were in pots for three years or so and I finally planted them out. In ground for two years and they have grown considerably and look much happier. Sweet little palms.

    Tim

    Tim

    Hilo, Hawaii

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    My Syagrus (Lytocaryum) hoenei was a gift from Bill Austin, and I put it in an area that gets filtered light in the morning and full sun for most of the afternoon. It has never shown any problem with these conditions. It now has several flower spikes, as shown in the pic below (hat for scale and taken during a brief hiatus of the rain when the sun was trying to pierce the cloud cover. The rain started again before I could get back to the house, but i had what I had wanted.) If one looks carefully slightly left of center the flowers are emerging from one of the spikes.

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    Mike Merritt

    Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

    165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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    Growing Lytocareum hoenei in Jacksonville 

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    On 2/18/2023 at 3:51 AM, realarch said:

    Just a few pictures of each, they were looking happy with the recent rainfall. The first two photos are of S. hoehnei which has a more upright leaf habit, and the S. weddelliana showing a weeping look. They both get a fair bit of sun.

    Tim

     

    Has Lytocaryum hoehnei already produced seeds?

     

    Éric

     

     

     

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    did you know where to find lytocaryum hoehnei seeds ?

     

    Éric

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    49 minutes ago, Eric33 said:

    did you know where to find lytocaryum hoehnei seeds ?

     

    Éric

    This species is available from Floribundapalms.com.   US $15  for a substantial plant, about 25-30 cm tall. 

    Perhaps you could ask Jeff to send them bare root in order to save shipping costs to France.  :)

    San Francisco, California

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    Myrtle beach checking in with a couple Lytocaryum (syagrus) Hoehnei 

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    10 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

    This species is available from Floribundapalms.com.   US $15  for a substantial plant, about 25-30 cm tall. 

    Perhaps you could ask Jeff to send them bare root in order to save shipping costs to France.  :) 

    they do not ship internationally 😔
     
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    11 hours ago, Eric33 said:

     

    Hey Eric, it has not seeded yet. Try RPS seeds out of Germany, you might have better luck.

    Tim

    Tim

    Hilo, Hawaii

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    Eric,  I'm sorry,  my mistake.    :bummed:

    San Francisco, California

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    5 hours ago, realarch said:

    Hey Eric, it has not seeded yet. Try RPS seeds out of Germany, you might have better luck.

    Tim

    Not available, I continue my research... 😉

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    5 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

    Eric,  I'm sorry,  my mistake.    :bummed:

    😉 ... I will find one day

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    On 2/20/2023 at 11:13 PM, Eric33 said:

    😉 ... I will find one day

    Might have seeds in maybe 6 months. Mine is pushing a new spathe. 

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    On 2/21/2023 at 12:39 AM, Eric33 said:

    did you know where to find lytocaryum hoehnei seeds ?

     

    Éric

    Yes I do know where you can find seeds! pm me if you don’t already have some seeds. 

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    5 minutes ago, happypalms said:

    Yes I do know where you can find seeds! pm me if you don’t already have some seeds. 

    Could you send a few down here please Richard?

    Troy gave me one yesterday in an exchange, but I'd love to have a little group of them. 

    South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

    Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

     

    Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

     

    Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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    7 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

    Could you send a few down here please Richard?

    Troy gave me one yesterday in an exchange, but I'd love to have a little group of them. 

    Next time I get them cheers. Argh life in the subtropical climate! 

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    I got my weddelliana from JM today. I got permission from the boss to splurge on a 15g since they are so slow 😁 Here it is in its approximate eventual location next spring. I have another tiny one from Jeff Marcus which I’ll plant alongside it…hopefully neither one croaks.
     

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    SF, CA

    USDA zone 10a / Sunset zone 17

    Summer avg. high 67°F / 20°C (SF record high 106°F / 41°C)

    Winter avg. low 43°F / 7°C (SF record low 27°F / -3°C)

    480’ / 146m elevation, 2.8 miles / 4.5km from ocean

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    I planted out this weddelliana yesterday. The soil in this part of the garden is heavier than the rest (takes about five minutes to drain 2" of water). The area gets consistent summer "rainfall" from fog dripping from the neighbor's Magnolia grandiflora overhead. It also gets almost no sun any time of year and as a result is continuously moist. I know this species is prone to root rot, so I cut off irrigation to the plant. It will be our only palm that isn't irrigated. What does everyone think of this strategy?

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    SF, CA

    USDA zone 10a / Sunset zone 17

    Summer avg. high 67°F / 20°C (SF record high 106°F / 41°C)

    Winter avg. low 43°F / 7°C (SF record low 27°F / -3°C)

    480’ / 146m elevation, 2.8 miles / 4.5km from ocean

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    I picked up a large Hoenei and a smaller 3g Wedellianum at the MB Palms open house in Orlando yesterday. How much sun are you giving these guys? Given inland central Florida sun may be a different beast.

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    37 minutes ago, RiverCityRichard said:

    I picked up a large Hoenei and a smaller 3g Wedellianum at the MB Palms open house in Orlando yesterday. How much sun are you giving these guys? Given inland central Florida sun may be a different beast.

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    I’d give them shade especially the “H”; plus mucho agua.

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    On 4/19/2026 at 10:28 AM, Foggy Paul said:

    I planted out this weddelliana yesterday. The soil in this part of the garden is heavier than the rest (takes about five minutes to drain 2" of water). The area gets consistent summer "rainfall" from fog dripping from the neighbor's Magnolia grandiflora overhead. It also gets almost no sun any time of year and as a result is continuously moist. I know this species is prone to root rot, so I cut off irrigation to the plant. It will be our only palm that isn't irrigated. What does everyone think of this strategy?

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    I’ve found them prone to drying out. Not sure how they’ll like Sam Frank’s Disco; might be too cool.

    But I’ll stand corrected if need be.

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    On 2/20/2023 at 6:29 AM, Darold Petty said:

    This species is available from Floribundapalms.com.   US $15  for a substantial plant, about 25-30 cm tall. 

    Perhaps you could ask Jeff to send them bare root in order to save shipping costs to France.  :)

    That’s where I got mine!

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    18 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

    I’ve found them prone to drying out. Not sure how they’ll like Sam Frank’s Disco; might be too cool.

    @Darold Petty has a little grove of them in his front yard, so I think it'll be OK if the roots can breathe.

    SF, CA

    USDA zone 10a / Sunset zone 17

    Summer avg. high 67°F / 20°C (SF record high 106°F / 41°C)

    Winter avg. low 43°F / 7°C (SF record low 27°F / -3°C)

    480’ / 146m elevation, 2.8 miles / 4.5km from ocean

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    Who's had luck with Syagrus weddelliana in full sun in California (or other Mediterranean climates)? I'm seeing it do better than I expected in part-sun and curious whether anyone's got it in all-day sun. 
    I did see a couple in Rio in full sun at the bus station, but not looking the best.

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