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Are these the children?

byuind
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This is what I believe to be, a CIDP in my work parking lot. There are multiple Sabals within 40 feet or so of this guy as well as some Robelinis.

 

are these CIDP kids? If so I will dig them up and take them home…

 

 

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The seedlings appear to be Sabal and the Phoenix does not look like a CIDP.

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    1 hour ago, Johnny Palmseed said:

    The seedlings appear to be Sabal and the Phoenix does not look like a CIDP.

    What would you say this Palm is then?

    Phoenix looks more like dactylifera or a tall sylvestris. The seedlings are obviously palmate so more likely Sabal.

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    18 hours ago, byuind said:

    What would you say this Palm is then?

    It's probably a hybrid since Phoenix palms are dioecious and there are many different species in Florida.  Were there any suckers at the bottom?  Dactylifera and reclinata are popular suckering species while canariensis, roebelenii and sylvestris are popular solitary species.  If there were suckers at the bottom it could be a cross involving any of the first two, if not likely parental candidates are from the last 3.

    Jon Sunder

    Agree with all. Seedlings are Sabals, Phoenix is not CIDP. Looks sylvestris, which I think is the most attractive date palm.

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    I’ll get more photos this week…

     

    I was hoping these weren’t the sabal weeds… figured I could pot them and cash in sometime in the future… like 10 years haha

    I don’t think there would be much cash even if they were Phoenix’s. One thing I have found with collecting random stray seedlings is that frequently the outcome is not what was hoped for. You would be better off just getting what you want from reliable vendors.

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    10 hours ago, Johnny Palmseed said:

    I don’t think there would be much cash even if they were Phoenix’s. One thing I have found with collecting random stray seedlings is that frequently the outcome is not what was hoped for. You would be better off just getting what you want from reliable vendors.

    Can you elaborate on this? Interested in understanding more of what you mean

    14 minutes ago, byuind said:

    Can you elaborate on this? Interested in understanding more of what you mean

    I believe that he is elaborating on what I previously posted.  If you come across a fruiting female Phoenix sylvestris and you collect seedlings underneath hoping for P. sylvestris, there has to be a male sylvestris nearby to pollinate the female.  Otherwise it may have been pollinated by a male P. canariensis, P. reclinata or a male P. roebelenii and you won't know what you have for several years.

    Jon Sunder

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    OK I see what you are saying. 

     

    In some cases I wouldn't mind the hybrids especially if they have the proper characteristics I am looking for. But to your point, you wouldn't know for several years.

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