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Kona find - Dypsis pilulifera or Dypsis sp. 'Orange Crush'?

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The big-box stores in Kona (Hawaii) are usually never a good place to find palms. But Lowe's seems to make a tiny bit of an effort as of late. @Dypsisdean made a recent post of a find of Dypsis mananjarensis. Today I saw this one labelled Dypsis pilulifera Orange Crush 10g / $190 ... I know this one is confusing and I am not Jeff 😉 ... so which one is this? 

  • Dypsis pilulifera
  • Dypsis sp. 'Orange Crush'

Unfortunately, I only took the following attached picture.

Thanks for any hints 🙏.

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Strictly, Dypsis pilulifera is now Chrysalidocarpus pilulifer, and D. Orange Crush is now also a Chrysalidocarpus but still unnamed from my understanding. These palms are Orange Crush. C. pilulifer is a different palm which is plumose. Although who knows what happens in the future. Dypsis/Chrysalidocarpus is still a big mystery. 

Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

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6 hours ago, Gunnar Hillert said:

The big-box stores in Kona (Hawaii) are usually never a good place to find palms. But Lowe's seems to make a tiny bit of an effort as of late. @Dypsisdean made a recent post of a find of Dypsis mananjarensis. Today I saw this one labelled Dypsis pilulifera Orange Crush 10g / $190 ... I know this one is confusing and I am not Jeff 😉 ... so which one is this? 

  • Dypsis pilulifera
  • Dypsis sp. 'Orange Crush'

Unfortunately, I only took the following attached picture.

Thanks for any hints 🙏.

dypsis_pilulifera_2022_kona.jpg

I can't help but think how many years it takes a seedling to gain that size here.  Despite what Tim just shared, I have palms labeled when purchased as both Dypsis pilulifera and sp. Orange Crush, which I have no idea which they will be as they mature.  Both are non trunking but as they gain size are showing some irregularities in leaflet spacing but neither fully plumose nor all in the same plane.  

I will trust Tim's assessment that these Lowes specimens are Chrysalidocarpus sp. Orange Crush.  They would sell out immediately at that size at a box store here in San Diego.   I will have to wait patiently to see what mine turn into.

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

Most definitely "Orange crush". :)

 

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

4 hours ago, bgl said:

Most definitely "Orange crush". :)

 

If you can share the "plumage" shots of yours as well as trunk that would be greatly appreciated. 

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

OK, here we go.  Plenty of different "Orange crush" in these four photos. :)

 

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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@bgl - Jealous! That's quite a forest. Well, I could not resist and picked one up (Hanukah came early 🥳). I think this is the tallest palm I have ever purchased. Something like 3m (10ft) tall and the 10gal pot is already bursting. May my garden look like yours in a "few years".

 

At Christmas time, I always get myself a present !    :greenthumb: 

San Francisco, California

1 hour ago, Gunnar Hillert said:

@bgl - Jealous! That's quite a forest. Well, I could not resist and picked one up (Hanukah came early 🥳). I think this is the tallest palm I have ever purchased. Something like 3m (10ft) tall and the 10gal pot is already bursting. May my garden look like yours in a "few years".

 

Oh, if it's already 3 m tall and a pot that's bursting you should see results very soon. But I think you need a whole lot more! 😃

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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