Identification help

[Fishinsteeg234]

This weekend while visiting a park in South Florida, I saw two palms that I could not immediately recognize with certainty. Can anybody ID these two plams? I was thinking both may be Ptychosperma Sp? 
 

much appreciated for any help with ID

 

[D. Morrowii]

I’m not great with IDs but I’m going to guess 1 is a Veitchia and 2 is Pinanga, maybe coronata.

I believe the leaflets of ptychosperma have squared of tips. 

[Merlyn]

I think Pinanga Coronata on the 2nd also, though it might be something like Ptychosperma Macarthurii.  Mine of both species are much younger than that, so I can only guess based on web photos.

[Frond-friend42]

I agree with pinanga coronata as #2. I think #1 is a veitchia. Maybe arecina.

[Fishinsteeg234]

I think y’all are right on #2, pinanga coronata most likely. 
 

Here’s is pic of a seed I grabbed off the ground from under tree #1. The ground was littered with hundreds of small seedlings and just a few seeds that differed from the common larger ovoid seed from V. arecina. The seedlings strap leaves were also small and thin, different from the wider V. arecina. What do y’all think? 
 

 

[aabell]

I think #1 looks like Ptychosperma elegans and the seed would seem to confirm that. 

[D. Morrowii]

Looks like ptychosperma seed to me. 

[Frond-friend42]

Looking back again I definitely agree with ptychosperma as well...most likely elegans.

[fiji jim]

I agree with the Pinanga ID and the other is a Ptychosperma.

A macarthur would be more green than this one and should have some suckers being a clustering sp.

Also looks more like some of my P. salomonenses

[Fishinsteeg234]

Here’s a close up on palm #1. My original thought was P. Elegans, especially with the ridges in the seed. But for some reason this one just looked a bit different from the 1000’s of other elegans lining the roadways around the Boca Raton area. Maybe due to the part shaded location. Or maybe Ptychosperma sp. 'Solomon Islands'?@fiji jim good possible ID on Ptychosperma salomonense…. I will mention this palm was located at Constitution Park and Arboretum in Deerfield beach, incase anyone knows specifics. Good public palm garden here!

 

thanks for all the input!