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Weepy dypsis onilahensis let’s seem em

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From the time I first got into palms dypsis onilahensis weepy form has always been one of my favorites. I remember it taking me a while to find one but after buying a few that ended up being the upright form I finally got one. Not a rocket ship by any stretch especially compared to the upright form. I’ve had this one for about 8 years from a one gallon. Always a solid plant. Never been fed hasn’t cared if it was in full sun or shaded. 118f no problem, 26f no damage. Show em if you got em. 

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"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Steve, like you, I’ve found them hard to find-at least dependably. Yours is beautiful.. Got a batch from Floribunda years ago that I split up with friends. Theirs turned out really nice, but nothing like yours, at least as far as the weepiness is concerned. Mine turned out to be a hybrid; probably crossed with Madagascariensis. Interesting and unique, but not what I was looking for. Let me know when yours seeds!!

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

I have an upright version that’s really starting to take off but I’d love to find a weepy one to shoehorn in somewhere. @Stevetoad, yours is super cool looking. 
 

-dale

dypsis onilahensis is also tolerant of cool weather which is a plus because of the winters here.

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1 hour ago, quaman58 said:

Steve, like you, I’ve found them hard to find-at least dependably. Yours is beautiful.. Got a batch from Floribunda years ago that I split up with friends. Theirs turned out really nice, but nothing like yours, at least as far as the weepiness is concerned. Mine turned out to be a hybrid; probably crossed with Madagascariensis. Interesting and unique, but not what I was looking for. Let me know when yours seeds!!

Will do. One thing I noticed with mine is that it doesn’t look like it ever suckered. Looks like two plants made it into one pot. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Steve, that is NICE specimen, I like the open habit that accentuates the droopy leaflets.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

I got this one from Phil at Jungle Music along with another one probably about 12 to 14 years ago.  Kept both in pots way too long and didn't transplant them up.  When I finally planted them, the other one died, and this one had lost a couple of trunks it had.  Poor stewardship on my part, not the plants fault at all.  So this one has remained solitary since before I planted it after losing those other trunks.  It has seeded in the past, but I never thought to collect the seeds and do anything with them.  You have me thinking I should save a few if the weeping form is that difficult to find right now.

Just a note on photo quality, it appears that the posts only show what I would refer to as a thumbnail in quality and resolution.  If you click on the photos, which opens them, the photo resolution is always moved up a notch.  I don't know why this is, but perhaps has something to do with file formatting as I shoot Canon camera RAW and convert to Jpegs.  It does frustrate me sometimes as it makes my photos look like I don't care about resolution and quality.

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Tracy,  I have lust in my heart for your palm,  please keep me in mind when it produces seed again !  :winkie:

San Francisco, California

4 minutes ago, Darold Petty said:

Tracy,  I have lust in my heart for your palm,  please keep me in mind when it produces seed again !  :winkie:

Photo was this morning, so I'll collect some for you.

33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

Many thanks,  :greenthumb::greenthumb:

San Francisco, California

1 hour ago, Tracy said:

Just a note on photo quality, it appears that the posts only show what I would refer to as a thumbnail in quality and resolution.  If you click on the photos, which opens them, the photo resolution is always moved up a notch.  I don't know why this is, but perhaps has something to do with file formatting as I shoot Canon camera RAW and convert to Jpegs.  It does frustrate me sometimes as it makes my photos look like I don't care about resolution and quality.

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That's an awesome palm!  I bought some Onilahensis "weepy" from Floribunda last fall and planted two of them.  I just noticed that he's out, so hopefully mine survive their first winter in the ground!

The forum software compresses them down to a maximum of 1620x1080 and uses around 65% quality setting for saving the JPGs.  So even the click-twice to get the full sized version is still very squashed.  You could take a 20MP RAW image, crop and adjust the colors, and it'll get crushed down to 1.75MP save forum bandwidth.  The displayed version in the regular forum view is even smaller.  Sometimes it is frustrating, but I definitely appreciated the lower bandwidth when I was browsing via USB tethering to my cellphone after hurricane Ian.  I was lucky to get 5kB/sec because all the land lines were down and EVERYONE was using their phones...  :D

These are a contender for my favourite palm. I’ve only got a few seedlings which aren’t photo worthy, but I’ve planted a few in friends and family’s gardens over the years. 
 

Check out this one from Landsendt gardens in NZ. 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

2 hours ago, Tracy said:

I got this one from Phil at Jungle Music along with another one probably about 12 to 14 years ago.  Kept both in pots way too long and didn't transplant them up.  When I finally planted them, the other one died, and this one had lost a couple of trunks it had.  Poor stewardship on my part, not the plants fault at all.  So this one has remained solitary since before I planted it after losing those other trunks.  It has seeded in the past, but I never thought to collect the seeds and do anything with them.  You have me thinking I should save a few if the weeping form is that difficult to find right now.

Just a note on photo quality, it appears that the posts only show what I would refer to as a thumbnail in quality and resolution.  If you click on the photos, which opens them, the photo resolution is always moved up a notch.  I don't know why this is, but perhaps has something to do with file formatting as I shoot Canon camera RAW and convert to Jpegs.  It does frustrate me sometimes as it makes my photos look like I don't care about resolution and quality.

Beautiful weeping specimen, Tracy.

I have the same reaction to the photos here after I post them. They never fail to disappoint. I comprehend the need, but it makes me feel like I need to make an appointment with the optometrist.

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Just beautiful Tracy. Perfect spot for it too.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Went out in the sprinkles to get some pix. Hard to get all 3 plants in a coherent photo; palms are shown from 2 different perspectives. 1D8AE2ED-F50C-456F-93BB-9235DBAEE7DB.thumb.jpeg.820cf7ce76de636932b46d93cb2a0258.jpeg
 

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There are 2 clustering and one solitary. Planted March 2012, not sure how big the pots were. 

Kim Cyr

Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Planted in 2013ish, parent's house, Upland CA.

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These are gorgeous 🤩

Here are a couple of photos of two of my favorite Syagruses. First is a group amaras, my plams here at my place on the Big Island.

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The second is of a pair of ruschianas, a clustering species. This was taken in April 2010 at Inhotim, a botanical garden in SE Brazil. I have four of these planted out, but they are much smaller.

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

A big OOPS. This was supposed to be a response to the topic of favorite Syagruses. So let me make up for it by adding a couple of pics of weepy onilahensis. The first is a habitat shot, probably by Jeff Marcus.

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These are two that I have been growing here. They seem to be more densely clustering than the others and I'm not sure the leaflets are as pendulous. Source are seeds from a local palm fanciers garden.

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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🤤🤤🤤 beautiful specimens everyone. Definitely in the top 5 for me. Thank you guys for showing them off. 

"it's not dead it's sleeping"

Santee ca, zone10a/9b

18 miles from the ocean

avg. winter 68/40.avg summer 88/64.records 113/25

Hey Mike, looks like we may have gotten seed from the same local source.

Here are three photos of the same palm. I acquired it as D. onilahensis ‘Drip Tip’.

Tim

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Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

12 hours ago, Merlyn said:

That's an awesome palm!  I bought some Onilahensis "weepy" from Floribunda last fall and planted two of them.  I just noticed that he's out, so hopefully mine survive their first winter in the ground!

The forum software compresses them down to a maximum of 1620x1080 and uses ...  :D

I always loved these weepies.   They look so great in California, it makes me feel like if I ever find some, I’d better temper my expectations for Florida.   Let us know how your do in the swampy heat.   Hope it’s well.  

11 hours ago, realarch said:

Hey Mike, looks like we may have gotten seed from the same local source.

Here are three photos of the same palm. I acquired it as D. onilahensis ‘Drip Tip’.

Tim

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Tim,

 

This is the one we've gotten from Jeff here in SoCal as "weepy".  It has a beautiful stem and is very pretty overall. But it's not the same strain as Steve's.  "Life is like a box of chocolates"...

 

Bret

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

I agree, very different forms indeed. Love the pronounced weepy ones and would keep as a specimen palm like the ones above. The form some of us here in Hawaii have look better in a group setting, to my eye anyway.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

Such an awesome palm! I have been trying to get one for years

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This is one of two on my rear slope in San Clemente. Grown by Bluebell Nursery in Anaheim. 

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Flowers opening on my Chrysalidocarpus onilahensis "weepy form" as well as a little color after a couple of leaves came off.

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Sorry everybody, it's particularly hard to photograph well.

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Just a baby. I bought from Phil at Jungle Music. Here's the question... Technically the pot had both labels, one stating "upright", the other "weepy"... Anyone have some insight on which type this will be? 

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16 hours ago, BayAndroid said:

Just a baby. I bought from Phil at Jungle Music. Here's the question... Technically the pot had both labels, one stating "upright", the other "weepy"... Anyone have some insight on which type this will be? 

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Not to hijak, but I"m in the exact same situation!

Picked up an onilahensis from Jungle Music (a while ago) and when I asked Phil if it was a "weepy" type he said "I *think* so."  Not sure if mine is from the same batch as yours, but here's a photo of my "I think it's weepy" palm...

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Anyone out there able to confirm whether the palms @BayAndroid and I bought from JM are "weepy" or not?

Stacey Wright  |  Graphic Designer

18 hours ago, BayAndroid said:

Just a baby. I bought from Phil at Jungle Music. Here's the question... Technically the pot had both labels, one stating "upright", the other "weepy"... Anyone have some insight on which type this will be? 

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2 hours ago, iDesign said:

Not to hijak, but I"m in the exact same situation!

Picked up an onilahensis from Jungle Music (a while ago) and when I asked Phil if it was a "weepy" type he said "I *think* so."  Not sure if mine is from the same batch as yours, but here's a photo of my "I think it's weepy" palm...

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Anyone out there able to confirm whether the palms @BayAndroid and I bought from JM are "weepy" or not?

I don’t think either are the Weepy form. The leaflets on the Weepy form are well…..Weepy. They really sag a lot as compared to the upright version. 
 

To me, it’s similar to looking at Howea Belmoreana vs Forsteriana. They look waaaaay different. 
 

I like the upright variety better anyway but everybody seems to like the Weepy. I’ll post a pic of my Upright when I get home in a few days. 
 

-dale 

Hard to get a shot of it need to cut back bromeliads around it. Also got beat up from the house work going on. But at a young age the fronds are weepy already on my 1g size

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On 10/11/2024 at 8:45 PM, BayAndroid said:

Just a baby. I bought from Phil at Jungle Music. Here's the question... Technically the pot had both labels, one stating "upright", the other "weepy"... Anyone have some insight on which type this will be? 

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I also have the same exact form, purchased from Phil at Jungle Music. I bought it back in early July and acclimated a bit to full sun then planted in the ground. I think I bought a form from the same batch as yours.  Mine though shows a slightly more weeping. I noticed when the new spear opens up it shows an upright form and then slowly weeps down. Though, this form I would say not 100% weepy or 100% upright, somewhere in between and more weeping to the fronds and less weeping to the leaflets.  Likely hybridized with other specifies. I will send picture of mine tomorrow. 

I also have the 100% weepy one (picture below). Still a baby but growing fast, kind of. 

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11 hours ago, iDesign said:

Not to hijak, but I"m in the exact same situation!

Picked up an onilahensis from Jungle Music (a while ago) and when I asked Phil if it was a "weepy" type he said "I *think* so."  Not sure if mine is from the same batch as yours, but here's a photo of my "I think it's weepy" palm...

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Anyone out there able to confirm whether the palms @BayAndroid and I bought from JM are "weepy" or not?

I think yours is 100% upright, at least from what I see from the picture. 

7 hours ago, MoPalm said:

I also have the same exact form, purchased from Phil at Jungle Music. I bought it back in early July and acclimated a bit to full sun then planted in the ground. I think I bought a form from the same batch as yours.  Mine though shows a slightly more weeping. I noticed when the new spear opens up it shows an upright form and then slowly weeps down. Though, this form I would say not 100% weepy or 100% upright, somewhere in between and more weeping to the fronds and less weeping to the leaflets.  Likely hybridized with other specifies. I will send picture of mine tomorrow. 

I also have the 100% weepy one (picture below). Still a baby but growing fast, kind of. 

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Thanks for your insight on this. 

20 hours ago, iDesign said:

Not to hijak, but I"m in the exact same situation!

Picked up an onilahensis from Jungle Music (a while ago) and when I asked Phil if it was a "weepy" type he said "I *think* so."  Not sure if mine is from the same batch as yours, but here's a photo of my "I think it's weepy" palm...

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Anyone out there able to confirm whether the palms @BayAndroid and I bought from JM are "weepy" or not?

Dale was correct with his analogy between Howea belmoreana and forsteriana.   Weepy will have leaflets immediately pendant from the rachis so if your leaflets are emerging up off the rachis it isn't the weepy form.

My August flowers are now October fruit still maturing. 

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

27 minutes ago, Tracy said:

Dale was correct with his analogy between Howea belmoreana and forsteriana.   Weepy will have leaflets immediately pendant from the rachis so if your leaflets are emerging up off the rachis it isn't the weepy form.

My August flowers are now October fruit still maturing. 

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Do your seeds sprout?

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2 hours ago, Tracy said:

Dale was correct with his analogy between Howea belmoreana and forsteriana.   Weepy will have leaflets immediately pendant from the rachis so if your leaflets are emerging up off the rachis it isn't the weepy form.

My August flowers are now October fruit still maturing. 

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So it's settled. Thank you! 

Here are some photos of the one I bought from Phil as weepy form, but I am certain its not 100% weepy.  

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