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Finally had some time to visit the Amy Greenwell Garden in South Kona. An approximately 10 acre garden geared more towards native Hawaiian and indigenous/canoe plants. Didn't get a chance to take many pictures as we were tight on time. Anyway, here a few pictures of some loulu that I did take.

P. glabrata

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These are P. minor, I believe? Seeds were very small but the undersides of the leaves were green.

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Don't have a clue what these are, but they were planted in very close proximity to each other with an 'ohi'a right in the middle. A very interesting planting layout. 20221014_094608.thumb.jpg.302dfa6403f3cbcbb53cb8df4c20141b.jpg

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Regarding the 'scurf' on the underside of the petiole of P. minor;   Is this detail present on small plants, or only a character of adult plants?   Thanks 

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7 hours ago, Big Eye said:

These are P. minor, I believe? Seeds were very small but the undersides of the leaves were green.

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Might be Napaliensis? If Minor, they should not be green on the bottom of the leaf, I think. 

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21 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

Regarding the 'scurf' on the underside of the petiole of P. minor;   Is this detail present on small plants, or only a character of adult plants?   Thanks 

Good question. I look forward to knowing as well. This was the first time I've come across this species of this size. 

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14 hours ago, Matt in OC said:

Might be Napaliensis? If Minor, they should not be green on the bottom of the leaf, I think. 

You are probably right! I only guessed minor as I've read that it has the smallest seed of all the Pritchardia. Plus it had that wooly petiole as you can see in the picture. I want to say that the seed was around half an inch or so matching the description of napaliensis seed as well. Good call, @Matt in OC 🤙

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Beautiful palms. Thanks for sharing!

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Agree with Matt about napaliensis. The unID' one reminds me of lowreyana.

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Mike Merritt

Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation

165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter.

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44 minutes ago, mike in kurtistown said:

Agree with Matt about napaliensis. The unID' one reminds me of lowreyana.

Mahalo for your input as always, @mike in kurtistown! As you know, many of the loulu at Amy Greenwell do not have id's but it was fun trying to key them out anyway. Those two were planted along the side road heading up towards the greenhouse on the opposite side of where the main building and parking lot is. Can't wait to get back and get better pictures. I don't think my wife and I even toured the entire garden!

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16 hours ago, Big Eye said:

Mahalo for your input as always, @mike in kurtistown! As you know, many of the loulu at Amy Greenwell do not have id's but it was fun trying to key them out anyway. Those two were planted along the side road heading up towards the greenhouse on the opposite side of where the main building and parking lot is. Can't wait to get back and get better pictures. I don't think my wife and I even toured the entire garden!

Another trip is required then, along with more photos.   Thanks for sharing them.  Any idea when the garden was established?

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Both of my P. glabrata came from Amy Greenwell BG. I thought they had closed, or maybe that was just the nursery.

Thanks for the photos.

Tim

Tim

Hilo, Hawaii

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On 10/29/2022 at 8:12 AM, realarch said:

Both of my P. glabrata came from Amy Greenwell BG. I thought they had closed, or maybe that was just the nursery.

Thanks for the photos.

Tim

Nice! There is a plant sale plus I believe a farmer's market this weekend. Wish I could make it. The garden opened back up beginning of last year after they acquired the property from Bishop Estates if I remember correctly. Walking the garden was a real treat.

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On 10/27/2022 at 1:24 PM, Big Eye said:

These are P. minor, I believe? Seeds were very small but the undersides of the leaves were green.

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Could it be P. napaliensis, given the green undersides? They're about the same size (at least based on what I saw at the Lyon Arboretum).

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Jason Dewees

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On 10/29/2022 at 2:49 AM, Tracy said:

Another trip is required then, along with more photos.   Thanks for sharing them.  Any idea when the garden was established?

After some research, looks like the garden was established in 1974 with the intent to grow endemic, indigenous, and Polynesian introduced plants (canoe plants). This garden hosts a repository of many endangered Hawaiian species, some of which are extinct in the wild.

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19 hours ago, JasonD said:

Could it be P. napaliensis, given the green undersides? They're about the same size (at least based on what I saw at the Lyon Arboretum).

Jason, thanks for the input! It really didn't cross my mind when I seen it at first. I always assumed that napaliensis was taller than minor. But as you stated, they are around the same size as well as the seeds. Spot on!

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