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Beccariophoenix fenestralis

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Please can you Experts Help me

is the Beccariophoenix  Fenestralis Previously  known as Beccariophoenix  Madagascariensis 

From what i understand, it looks a bit like a Queen Palm, only  self  Cleaning ?

Or am i getting mixed up with the Dypsis Palm ?

Is  Beccariophoenix fenestralis  ok on windy days ? and is it a water lover, ?  

Lastly whats best soil for this palm ?  Rich ? Acidity, Sandy , etc

Doesn't look like a queen palm, more like a coconut.

It can tolerate wind but not a lot.

I don't think it's self cleaning.

it's also a bit less cold hardy than Beccariophoenix Alfredii.

Lastly I don't really know about the soil this palm needs.

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These Palms Are Slow Growing ?  

I'm not an expert, but debated between the various Beccariophoenix a long time, so know the basic options...

1) Beccariophoenix madagascarensis (sometimes called the "no windows" version)
https://palmpedia.net/wiki/Beccariophoenix_madagascariensis_'no_windows'

The type I own. Gorgeous palm, but slooooooow.

2) Beccariophoenix fenestralis (sometimes called "windows" version)
https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Beccariophoenix_fenestralis

I personally think this one's the most beautiful, but doesn't grow well in my area (thrives in Florida & Hawaii).

3) Beccariophoenix alfredii (the most recently named one)
https://www.palmpedia.net/wiki/Beccariophoenix_alfredii
This is the one most people get these days, because it cold tolerant and a relatively fast grower. Can get massive! Seems to be a little tippy in the wind when younger, so plant away from wind or stake while young.

* Dypsis is a totally different type of palm (and just to futher confuse, most of the formerly Dypsis palms have recently been renamed "crysalidocarpus").

Hope that at least gets you started!

Stacey Wright  |  Graphic Designer

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Its the 2) option, Windows version,  i am getting 

Just now, Patrick Palms said:

Its the 2) option, Windows version,  i am getting 

Awww, I love the cosmetics of that one. They struggle here in CA but if you can grow them in your area that's the one I'd personally choose (from a purely cosmetic standpoint). 

If you have any other questions I'll let the real "experts" chime in. Just thought I'd clarify a bit on the three types 👍

Stacey Wright  |  Graphic Designer

36 minutes ago, Patrick Palms said:

Its the 2) option, Windows version,  i am getting 

the windows version is a great looking palm when its happy but they don't do so well in our high drainage sandy soil in my part of florida.  They appear to be fussy about micronutrients.  Its the only palm I've ever tried that I just couldn't stop from substantial yellowing in my florida yard.  I planted it and within a year it  went into decline and died after a cold winter.  They seem to do well in the deep south florida rocky soils, but they have the reputation for being the toughest of the beccariophoenix sp to keep happy.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

Tom Blank

2 hours ago, sonoranfans said:

the windows version is a great looking palm when its happy but they don't do so well in our high drainage sandy soil in my part of florida.  They appear to be fussy about micronutrients.  Its the only palm I've ever tried that I just couldn't stop from substantial yellowing in my florida yard.  I planted it and within a year it  went into decline and died after a cold winter.  They seem to do well in the deep south florida rocky soils, but they have the reputation for being the toughest of the beccariophoenix sp to keep happy.

I have kept one alive and growing extremely slowly in my Carlsbad clay soil garden.  One of the slowest palms I own in that garden.  I planted it some time before 2009, photo is from late spring of 2022.  Lots of patience required here with this species.  It was a solid 7 gallon towering over the adjacent Pritchardia when I planted it, and 13 years later it lives in the shade of the Pritchardia.

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33.0782 North -117.305 West  at 72 feet elevation

But in the perfect climate for it...

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My "dream photo" of Beccariophonix fenestralis at Floribunda, Hawaii (posted by @Dypsisdean). Wish it grew better in our area, but the other two types are quite attractive as well.

My madagascarensis is going to be incredible someday (many years from now)! In the meantime...

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Stacey Wright  |  Graphic Designer

B. fenestralis is a beautiful but sometimes frustrating grow. When they're happy, I'd say their growth rate is moderately fast, especially in the tropics. In a Mediterranean climate, they are definitely hit or miss. Some will grow fine, some will look pretty good, yet grow very slowly, and some will turn yellow and die pretty quickly.  The assumption is that they like a rather acidic soil and keeping the Ph in balance so that the nutrients don't become "locked up". But yet there are good ones in South Florida that have definitely alkaline soil. So go figure. But a well grown one is just a beautiful palm, definitely reminiscent of Cocos, more so than any other palm IMO. They're also a bit more cold sensitive than either madagascariensis or alfredii, by perhaps 3-4 degrees F.  Regarding being a "self-cleaning" palm, only after many years. (Similar to a Queen palm).   

Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

You are too modest Brett 

Here is your B. fenestralis.  

It is a coconut Doppelgänger.

 

 

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5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)

 

In this climate.  Fenestralis is the fastest, but finicky.  It seems to like rich soil, a lot of fertilizer (N,K,Fe), and a fair amount of shade when young, here.  

Alfredii is less finicky, very sun tolerant, but slower.   Neither are great in tropical storm winds or greater, when young.  They are pretty wobbly at the base  I think they get more wind stable once they get bigger and start trunking, and that big base forms.  Fenestralis does the worst in the wind when young, with those giant sail-leaves…..

March 2021….

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October 2022….
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