P. Reclinata with CIDP seed pollen

[TheMadScientist]

I just got back from making a special trip today Saturday to the San Fernando Courthouse to take photos of this palm.  The cases (murder & child molestation that have occurred in Santa Clarita) I attend being tried here, the Deputies won't let me take any recording devices into the courthouse.  I am creating 2 similar posts that I chose NOT to combine into 1 post to keep information separate and hopefully less confusing.  I collected seeds from this in November 2019, cleaned the fruit by finger nail, couple hours of water soak, sown right away into a community pot then into my germination box at 80 deg. F.  Germination happened in 4 weeks.  I put 7 germinated seeds into the same 5 gallon container not knowing what the future would be.  I am attaching a couple of the adult palm photos for details of the base, trunk, leaves and height.  I am suggesting this is close to 50 years old based on the courthouse.  BUT WHAT PALM DONATED THE POLLEN?  I don't know if they flowered at the same time, but the closest Phoenix species that I could find is about 400 feet away both behind the courthouse and opposite direction into the neighborhood which is CIDP.  So often, PT members are asked to ID little seedlings which is near impossible, but in this case, I know the seed donor.  The photo of this seedling is now 2 1/2 years old (I didn't take a 1 month old photo) and you can see just how large the leaves are already.  There have NOT been any seeds on this during 2 1/2 years, but today, I noticed seeds are started and should be another 5 months or so to ripen.

[TheMadScientist]

In 3 months, this group of 7 will be 4 years old.  The reason for this posting, you can start to see this hybrid taking on the traits of CIDP from the largest opening frond that I suspected was the pollen donor.  I do NOT see any indication from these 7 seeds sown that the P. Reclinata traits of "suckering" has started.

In photo #1, I put a white plastic patio chair behind the palm for size reference and leaf development.

In photo #2 & #3, I DO see unique base diameters occurring during the growth period.

Photo #1

Photo #2

Photo #3