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Suggestion for a Reverse Osmosis System


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Any Suggestion for a Reverse Osmosis System? Biggest issues are sodium over 200mg/l and total bicarbonates of 400. Need about 100-200 gallons a day.

Texas!

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted
21 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Any Suggestion for a Reverse Osmosis System? Biggest issues are sodium over 200mg/l and total bicarbonates of 400. Need about 100-200 gallons a day.

Texas!

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted
22 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Any Suggestion for a Reverse Osmosis System? Biggest issues are sodium over 200mg/l and total bicarbonates of 400. Need about 100-200 gallons a day.

Texas!

Rainsoft might have a solution for you: https://www.rainsoft.com/reverse-osmosis-water-system

This is the company I've considered at least.

Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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I don't have any specific brand recommendations, but whatever system you buy should use "standard" sized filter cartridges.  There are only a couple of RO membrane makers, a lot of them use the DOW Filmtec cartridges.  But some companies (most under-sink RO brands) like to take a DOW cartridge and stick it in their own custom housing and sell it for $100 each...when the "standard" filter straight from DOW might cost $30.  So for my under-sink drinking water setup I bought a Watts GTS 550S filter setup from an online seller SupremeWaterSales for about $185 shipped, and I can replace all 5 filters for about $50-60.

Another example is the standard big whole house filters, I bought a "Big Blue" x 3 filter housing setup and then could buy my choice of generic cartridges like the Pentek 455906 or 255494, or any other manufacturer that makes for that standard size.

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13 hours ago, Merlyn said:

I don't have any specific brand recommendations, but whatever system you buy should use "standard" sized filter cartridges.  There are only a couple of RO membrane makers, a lot of them use the DOW Filmtec cartridges.  But some companies (most under-sink RO brands) like to take a DOW cartridge and stick it in their own custom housing and sell it for $100 each...when the "standard" filter straight from DOW might cost $30.  So for my under-sink drinking water setup I bought a Watts GTS 550S filter setup from an online seller SupremeWaterSales for about $185 shipped, and I can replace all 5 filters for about $50-60.

Another example is the standard big whole house filters, I bought a "Big Blue" x 3 filter housing setup and then could buy my choice of generic cartridges like the Pentek 455906 or 255494, or any other manufacturer that makes for that standard size.

Its for my Garden only. Sorry I did not clarify that. With climate change, the southwest desert is expanding, and I might as well be living in Tucson right now. This is a trend over the last 50 years. no reason to think it is going to change. The trees start dying off, and its only a matter of a few decades that it become irreversible as deserts feed on deserts No soil moisture, no trees no clouds.

However, our water is terrible for plants, it is one of the worst in the USA.  So I need a plan I do not want a dead yard or greenhouse.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

Posted
8 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Its for my Garden only. Sorry I did not clarify that.

My recommendation was mostly referring to the "generic," easy replacement of filters over time.  My RO is just a sink system, I just made sure that I could buy replacement filters from a variety of makers so I wasn't stuck buying a "Moen" brand RO cartridge at drastically inflated prices over the OEM DOW generic.  So the Moen Hydro-Logic could be a good choice, just check and see if the RO cartridge has some OEM cross-reference numbers or a standard size.

You'll want some kind of retention tank for the filtered water, probably one with a diaphragm like a standard well pump tank.  That's critical if your use rate is near to or exceeds the RO filter flow rate in gallons per hour.  That's kinda hard to calculate, but you could just buy an oversized retention tank and figure it'll be "big enough."

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On 7/18/2022 at 8:20 PM, Collectorpalms said:

Any Suggestion for a Reverse Osmosis System? Biggest issues are sodium over 200mg/l and total bicarbonates of 400. Need about 100-200 gallons a day.

Texas!

You can go Merlyn's route if you want to install it and buy components on your own.  The other alternative is to have a trained water quality specialist install the system.  You don't have to forgo the ability to review whether the system has proprietary cartridges and reject proposals from those that won't provide units that have the generic cartridges.  Not knowing what part of Texas you are in, I will refer you to a non-profit organization representing the industry in Texas, the Texas Water Quality Association website https://twqa.org/members_dealersearch.php  .  I'm assuming you are on well water with the specs you provided on your water.  The follow up question is if you are connected to sewer or have a septic system?  I ask that because you will want to consider what you will do with the concentrate flow.  All the stuff you are removing to get product water ends up in that concentrate, so if you can't put it to a sewer connection, you will be discharging that concentrate somewhere. 

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2 hours ago, Tracy said:

You can go Merlyn's route if you want to install it and buy components on your own.  The other alternative is to have a trained water quality specialist install the system.  You don't have to forgo the ability to review whether the system has proprietary cartridges and reject proposals from those that won't provide units that have the generic cartridges.  Not knowing what part of Texas you are in, I will refer you to a non-profit organization representing the industry in Texas, the Texas Water Quality Association website https://twqa.org/members_dealersearch.php  .  I'm assuming you are on well water with the specs you provided on your water.  The follow up question is if you are connected to sewer or have a septic system?  I ask that because you will want to consider what you will do with the concentrate flow.  All the stuff you are removing to get product water ends up in that concentrate, so if you can't put it to a sewer connection, you will be discharging that concentrate somewhere. 

This is city water. We have a monopoly run by the city officials for water utilities, phone whatever. The city controls it, you do not have any competition. This is what happens when you get politics and money involved dating back since the founding of the city.

In the latest water report they no longer report sodium and total dissolved solids because why? Complaints. I pulled it from 2019.

https://www.cstx.gov/common/pages/DisplayFile.aspx?itemId=17795609

NO water dealers anywhere near here on your list.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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Am I correct that in 2020 the city reports your pH at 8.7?  If so,  that's locking out most of your plants' nutrition even if essential elements are present.  Even with the calcium level so high, seems like you should be buffering the water so your plants can absorb nutrients.

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4 hours ago, GeneAZ said:

Am I correct that in 2020 the city reports your pH at 8.7?  If so,  that's locking out most of your plants' nutrition even if essential elements are present.  Even with the calcium level so high, seems like you should be buffering the water so your plants can absorb nutrients.

Yes, I have a PH meter.  I use citric acid to lower it to 5.8 when planting annuals etc... It works temporarily. I use to get a lot of compliments that I could grow anything.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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