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Palm seedlings growing out of the crotch of my oak tree

miamicuse
miamicuse
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Some palms are living on the crotch of my oak tree.

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    Looks like the work of squirrels.

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    Do you plan to keep them alive, or...?

    Kim Cyr

    Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA
    and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow
    All characters  in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

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    1 hour ago, Kim said:

    Do you plan to keep them alive, or...?

    I am going to remove them from the oak tree before they really get established.  I don't think I will be able to keep them alive I am not even sure what kind they are.

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    So today I got up on a ladder and removed the palms on the tree.

    Looks quite healthy, although I have no idea what kind it is.  Palms nearby that may be it's parents are: Adonidia merrillii, Ptychosperma elegans or Chrysalidocarpus lutescens.

    I don't know if what I have is a cluster of palms from multiple seeds, or whether it's just one plant with clustering shoots.

    I put it into the ground and see what happens.

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    6 hours ago, miamicuse said:

    So today I got up on a ladder and removed the palms on the tree.

    Looks quite healthy, although I have no idea what kind it is.  Palms nearby that may be it's parents are: Adonidia merrillii, Ptychosperma elegans or Chrysalidocarpus lutescens.

    I don't know if what I have is a cluster of palms from multiple seeds, or whether it's just one plant with clustering shoots.

    I put it into the ground and see what happens.

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    My guess is some kind of Dypsis / Chrysalidocarpus

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    3 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

    My guess is some kind of Dypsis / Chrysalidocarpus

    Probably a Chrysalidocarpus lutescens then.  How much does it need to grow to be able to positively ID it I wonder.

    11 hours ago, miamicuse said:

    I put it into the ground and see what happens.

    I'm sure it'll be be fine if you got most of the roots.  Below is a Butia odorata that I similarly removed from the old leaf boots of the mother palm.  If you found the old seed (used up or still attached to the seedling) it would help to ID.

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    Jon Sunder

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    10 hours ago, Fusca said:

    I'm sure it'll be be fine if you got most of the roots.  Below is a Butia odorata that I similarly removed from the old leaf boots of the mother palm.  If you found the old seed (used up or still attached to the seedling) it would help to ID.

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    I think I got most of the roots.  I wasn't planning on planting it I just went up on a ladder to pull it out and it came out surprisingly easy without any resistance with most roots preserved.  So hopefully it will do well there in the new spot which is also in partial shade.

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    I could be wrong, but they look like Royal Palm seedlings. Any royal palms around you somewhere?

    Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

     

     

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    39 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

    I could be wrong, but they look like Royal Palm seedlings. Any royal palms around you somewhere?

    No royal palms nearby at that property...unless it's carried by birds.

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    I'd guess Lutescens.  I have a smallish shade-grown Madagascariensis/Lucubensis that looks very similar, with large gaps between each leaflet.

    These seedlings start off monofid then go pinnate. C lutescens, A merillii, and P elegans all start off bifid. 

    Roystonea start off monofid then go pinnate. 

    Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

     

     

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