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Kentiopsis magnifica

LJG
LJG
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I just purchased two 15 gallon Kentiopsis magnifica from JDA's. Of course I bought before I did research. I searched Google and there really is not a lot of info on this plant.

Anyone in SoCal have it growing in the ground? How did it do this Winter?

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

have you told yer wife yet? :D

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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She did ask why there were two more palms in the garage. I said they were ones I brought in from outside in the yard because it was too hot.  Is lying to your wife wrong?   :D  

What about if it is only to support your plant addiction?  :P

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

15 gallon Kentiopsis magnifica would cost an arm and a leg here. Never seen them in big pots or bags.

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

(Wal @ Sep. 03 2007,08:18)

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15 gallon Kentiopsis magnifica would cost an arm and a leg here. Never seen them in big pots or bags.

Also here too. Your lucky if you can find one in a 1gallon size pot. I'm a little jealous.......

Jeff

Searle Brothers Nursery Inc.

and The Rainforest Collection.

Southwest Ranches,Fl.

Mines bigger. :P  (but not in the ground of course)   Len, Dean and Jeff Breaseau have them in the ground, but about the same size as yours.  Len, mine sat right where it was over the cold span with sheet on top and a halogen light pointing at the piersoniorum and the magnifica.

Glad you got them, I told Kim she should get one some time back..... but as you know, not cheap.

Overall, I think hi heat is the enemy, I would treat like a kentia. eventually will take some good sun, but all I've seen are in the shade. Mine probably gets more sun than most.

oh yes, I've seen both "in-grounders" since the winter and look fine.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

Post a photo of the tree.  A 15 gallon K. Magnifica would be a pricey palm.

I have K. Olivoformus and Pyrsorianum (sp?) all doing fine here in Dana Point.  I have tried to grow K. Magnifica from seed and had a hard time germinating them plus the ones that did pop are sloooooooow.

Looking forward to that photo!

Thanks,  Jeff

Dana Point Tropicals - C-27 License #906810

(949) 542-0999

(el-blanco @ Sep. 03 2007,07:21)

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Post a photo of the tree.  A 15 gallon K. Magnifica would be a pricey palm.

I have K. Olivoformus and Pyrsorianum (sp?) all doing fine here in Dana Point.  I have tried to grow K. Magnifica from seed and had a hard time germinating them plus the ones that did pop are sloooooooow.

Looking forward to that photo!

Thanks,  Jeff

Jeff- when I was up there, I didn't see a Piersoniorum. (VERY rare) you maybe meant a Pyroformis?  Those seem to grow fairly fast and be colorful too. Great combination!  :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I knew they were hard to find. Especially SoCal large. 15's here. FL maybe only 7's.

Here are the two:

KMagnifica3.jpg

Base and color of one:

KMagnifica2.jpg

Compared next to my little Piersoniorum:

KMagnifica1.jpg

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin
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(BS, Man about Palms @ Sep. 03 2007,07:19)

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Dean and Jeff Breaseau have them in the ground, but about the same size as yours.

Our very own Dean Ouer? Really. I never knew that. I have been there twice.  :(

I think I need to try and get over to Jeff's. I want to find out where he planted it, how long it has been in the ground and what temps he hit this Jan.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

(LJG @ Sep. 03 2007,11:50)

QUOTE

(BS @ Man about Palms,Sep. 03 2007,07:19)

QUOTE
Dean and Jeff Breaseau have them in the ground, but about the same size as yours.

Our very own Dean Ouer? Really. I never knew that. I have been there twice.  :(

I think I need to try and get over to Jeff's. I want to find out where he planted it, how long it has been in the ground and what temps he hit this Jan.

I think Dean decided a little while back that it was a bit too shaded.  It sits near the west fence about 20' diagonally from the OCWS in the front... :D

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

(LJG @ Sep. 03 2007,03:05)

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She did ask why there were two more palms in the garage. I said they were ones I brought in from outside in the yard because it was too hot.  Is lying to your wife wrong?   :D  

What about if it is only to support your plant addiction?  :P

the simple answer is "yes".

the complicated answer is you bought more than 2... :D

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

part II:

doesn't jim wright in clairemont CA have a 20' kentiopsis

in his garden? i could be wrong... ???

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

(pohonkelapa @ Sep. 03 2007,22:35)

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part II:

doesn't jim wright in clairemont CA have a 20' kentiopsis

in his garden? i could be wrong... ???

maybe oliviformis..I don't think magnifica.

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

still..its BITCHEN :P

the "prince of snarkness."

 

still "warning-free."

 

san diego,california,left coast.

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Dean, did you get a pic of Jeffs when you were there? How about yours? Oh... who am I fooling. Dean is never around here anymore. He is too cool for us now that he started palmpedia.net.

Bo, I know you stated you had one that has not started trunking yet. Do you have a pic (I am sure you do :) ) and any info when it was planted.

Len

Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

Shadowridge Area

"Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

-- Alfred Austin

Yeah guys, Jim Wright's is a K. oliviformis.

My K. magnifica has been in the ground for at least seven years. It is in my most shaded area of all, and that is way too shady. I forgot about it for a couple of years and when I remembered, it was buried under a ton of old leaves. I thought for sure it would eventually rot away because of it's location. But last I checked it is still hanging on, with what is probably only about a leaf a year.

Edit: Len, we were writing at the same time. No, I did not see Jeff's when I was over there. I didn't realize these were such big deals. I'll have to take better care of mine.  :)

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Len,

Well, talk about dedication, but despite a light rain I just went outside (at 9 p.m.) to get this photo for you!! And since I last posted on K. magnifica, this one has indeed begun to form a trunk. OK, just one node at this point, but it's a beginning!! :)  I bought this one in Aug 1997 in a 1G pot from Floribunda ($5 - what a deal!!).

Bo-Göran

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

And this is what a new frond looks like. Took this photo last year.

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Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

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    Wouldn't Kentiopsis prefer more sun as it grows ? Is there any Kentiopsis sp. requiring or at least preferring more sun than the others ?

    Happy Gardening

    Cheers,

    Wal

    Queensland, Australia.

    I forgot I took a poor picture of Jeff's. Haven't got Deans yet, though.

    cuestalinda007.jpg

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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    (Dypsisdean @ Sep. 03 2007,23:19)

    QUOTE
    Edit: Len, we were writing at the same time. No, I did not see Jeff's when I was over there. I didn't realize these were such big deals. I'll have to take better care of mine.  :)

    Me neither. Like I said I bought without doing research. I got it because it has a lot more red/purple in the spear and petiole and I like the bonus that the new leaf opens red. I am glad I have two now. :)

    Bo, what dedication you have! If your plant is 10 years old, and I use my handy-dandy HI==>CA growth converter, I figure I will not see trunk for 25 years!

    PS - anyone can make their own HI==>CA palm growth converter. You need 5 beers, 100 degree weather, boredom and complete lack of empirical data.

    Bill, great shot. Looks like that photography class is paying off.  :P

    Len

    Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

    Shadowridge Area

    "Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

    -- Alfred Austin

    (Wal @ Sep. 04 2007,03:19)

    QUOTE
    Wouldn't Kentiopsis prefer more sun as it grows ? Is there any Kentiopsis sp. requiring or at least preferring more sun than the others ?

    Wal, I have no experience with Kentiopsis in sun other than K. oliviformis but man does this thing take a heck of a lot of sun.  I'd put it comparable to Archontophoenix.  As long as it's in a rich moist soil then it can handle it.....let it dry out and it'll burn.  They both acclimate at about the same size too, although the Kentiopsis oliviformis will take you several more years to get there.

    Matt Bradford

    "Manambe Lavaka"

    Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

    10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

    9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

    Len-

    Now you have those nice disappearing pictures too......  :(

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    • 2 weeks later...
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    So I was walking around the garden and saw this out in the back. It is not as bright red as Bo's, but still not bad. What a nice little surprise. :)

    KMagnifica4.jpg

    Mardy Darian was commenting on his "Super D. decipiens" explaining the color of the trunk, cronwshaft, petioles, etc. He then pointed out the new leaf is pink to red. He said when a palm is gorgeous in general and throws off a colorful leaf to top it off, it is like when you hit big time on the slots and then find out you also won a car. Good point.

    Len

    Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

    Shadowridge Area

    "Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

    -- Alfred Austin

    Len- Is that one of your Magnifica's in the ground already? You stud.

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    • Author

    Hell no. Still in a pot. I have learned from my mistakes last year. They shall wait until Spring, then they will be planted out. It was in the garage for a week. Once I put them in filtered light, they started growing faster and then this leaf opened. So I will give it more sun when I do plant out.

    Len

    Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

    Shadowridge Area

    "Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

    -- Alfred Austin

    (LJG @ Sep. 13 2007,20:06)

    QUOTE
    Hell no. Still in a pot. I have learned from my mistakes last year. They shall wait until Spring, then they will be planted out. It was in the garage for a week. Once I put them in filtered light, they started growing faster and then this leaf opened. So I will give it more sun when I do plant out.

    Ahhh. keeping your status to a "Jones jr".    Very good, patience is a virtue and all that.

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    great new avatard,len.of course when you change it to something silly next month my comment will make no sense. :D

    the "prince of snarkness."

     

    still "warning-free."

     

    san diego,california,left coast.

    (pohonkelapa @ Sep. 13 2007,23:58)

    QUOTE
    great new avatard,len.of course when you change it to something silly next month my comment will make no sense. :D

    He didn't wait a day for the opportunity. :)

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    • Author

    So BS stops by today and ask where my other Magnifica was. So I figured he was playing  a joke on me. Nope. Some scum bags stole one of them and a bunch of other plants and cycads from my yard. I hope they rot in hell. I have a good idea who but when asked, of course he had no involvement. However he was the only one that knew where stuff was to steal since he planted the stuff.

    I am so pissed right now!

    Len

    Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

    Shadowridge Area

    "Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

    -- Alfred Austin

    Len, if you can prove someones guilt, I would like to be involved in the gun play...   I'll even buy a gun for it.  :angry:  

    PS- Monompona made it home OK (forgot about the footbridge at Mira Coasta) Not to mention, I never noticed how low stuff is until I'm driving something needing 18 feet clearance!

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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    That was a funny site by the way. Did you get above 20 at all? :)

    Len

    Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

    Shadowridge Area

    "Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

    -- Alfred Austin

    (LJG @ Sep. 20 2007,21:59)

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    That was a funny site by the way. Did you get above 20 at all? :)

    I think I coasted "up to" 23-24 mph once, most of the time it was below 20 mph.  I did call my work friend near you with the Gigas and was gonna stop by, but he was at soccer with his girls on Melrose, so I did a "drive by" to show off my new 15' tall green "whip antenna".  

    PS- went on the roof to pull off the wrap....noticed the mealy bugs on the tip of the frond....I guess when they are 15-16' off the ground, they're hard to spot!!!  :D:P

    Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

    "The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

    -George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

    I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

    • 8 years later...
    On 9/3/2007, 3:05:58, LJG said:

    She did ask why there were two more palms in the garage. I said they were ones I brought in from outside in the yard because it was too hot.  Is lying to your wife wrong?   :D  

    What about if it is only to support your plant addiction?  :P

    Len

    Yes, it is definitely a indicator to addiction in my opinion.

    Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

    Len, got a recent picture?

    Pretty please with a Double coconut on top?

     

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    On December 22, 2015 at 10:08:44 PM, DoomsDave said:

    Len, got a recent picture?

    Pretty please with a Double coconut on top?

     

    Since you asked nicely. It's chugging away. 1-2 leaves per year, depending on the year. 

     

    image.jpeg

    Len

    Vista, CA (Zone 10a)

    Shadowridge Area

    "Show me your garden and I shall tell you what you are."

    -- Alfred Austin

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    Thanks!

    Santa couldn't have done any better!

    Let's keep our forum fun and friendly.

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