True Takil? Nainital?

[NWpalms@206]

Took my 2 Takil out of the greenhouse to breathe a little. Starting to see some differences to my fortunei for sure. But I know there was some mixup with Takil and Nainital, just wandering if anyone has seen similarities to this in either. Are these true? Any input/pics  appreciated. The fronds are much stiffer as well, and They’re from a reputable source. 

[Jimhardy]

They are really to young to tell for sure but if I had to bet I would say they are 

Takil,the ligules look correct(again its a small palm) and the tomentum is a good sign.

[NWpalms@206]

8 minutes ago, Jimhardy said:

They are really to young to tell for sure but if I had to bet I would say they are 

Takil,the ligules look correct(again its a small palm) and the tomentum is a good sign.

Much appreciated! 

[Henoh]

I would say they are true T. takil. 

[Chester B]

1 hour ago, Jimhardy said:

They are really to young to tell for sure but if I had to bet I would say they are 

Takil,the ligules look correct(again its a small palm) and the tomentum is a good sign.

Yep the papery ligules are quite small so that’s a good sign. I do believe they are supposed to have tightly woven fibers on the trunk. The one I have displays this. Again a little early, but they are definitely looking “right” as far as I can tell. 

[teddytn]

@NWpalms@206 those look exactly like the takils I have. I also got them from a reputable source. The next sign to look for is the alpine trunking nature. Supposedly all takils exhibit this growth habit where the trunk grows horizontally before growing vertically. 

[Chester B]

15 minutes ago, teddytn said:

@NWpalms@206 those look exactly like the takils I have. I also got them from a reputable source. The next sign to look for is the alpine trunking nature. Supposedly all takils exhibit this growth habit where the trunk grows horizontally before growing vertically. 

Yes I have heard the same and mine did that.  However, I also see this in regular fortunei very regularly.

[Jimhardy]

I have seen the SFH trait in T.Oreophilus,T.Princeps,T.Manipur,T.Fortunei,T.Takil basically all the reniform

seed group Trachys,I have not personally witnessed this in T.Latisectus or T.Martianus (coffee bean shaped Trachys)

It does make some sense that the 2 least hardy of the Trachys are basically full strait as the rest seem to be

mountain or cliff dwellers generally.

[RJ]

Mine has a significant creep to it. None of my princeps do.. 

[NWpalms@206]

I would say it’s all adding up then! I dug a little deeper around bases and found the same thing on both, the older growth definitely shows the sideways creep. Good to see thanks for everyone’s input I feel confident they’re real. Excited to see some size to them. 

Edited January 23, 2022 by NWpalms@206

[Jimhardy]

Its not common in Princeps but it can happen...they are also prone to damping off

when  young-and its possible if one survives it as a small palm that its a response 

to some root loss...so maybe a more curved approach in that case....

 

PS. We have been told that evolution happens over(long?) periods of time but

I don't think Trachys got the memo.

Edited January 23, 2022 by Jimhardy