Best potted palm tree? 8b

[Peachs]

60L pot (16gal)

South facing (lots of sun in summer)

Self-watering pot (never lack water)

In zone of passage, distance of pot to wall 1 meter. So I must buy at least with 1 meter of trunk to facilitate the transit.

I do not want it to be temporary, so it should not grow more than 6 meters high...

 

Which one do you recommend?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Peachs]

[Peachs]

Brahea Edulis

C. Humilis

Livistona Chinensis

Trachycarpus W.

W. Robusta

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[Trustandi]

I dont have much experience growing palms in pots. In my opinion, you don't want something with armed petioles since you will put the pot in walkway.  I will recommend either Brahea edulis or Trachycarpus wag.

If you pick Brahea Edulis, just be careful when winter arrives, you might need to protect it since it is a borderline 8b/9a palm and it will be on a pot instead of I'm the ground. 

[Peachs]

  On 12/11/2021 at 4:37 PM, Trustandi said:

I dont have much experience growing palms in pots. In my opinion, you don't want something with armed petioles since you will put the pot in walkway.  I will recommend either Brahea edulis or Trachycarpus wag.

If you pick Brahea Edulis, just be careful when winter arrives, you might need to protect it since it is a borderline 8b/9a palm and it will be on a pot instead of I'm the ground. 

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Finally I will locate the pot elsewhere, without problems of passage.  Interesting that it grows fast but can survive in a pot, with confined roots.

[Peachs]

[TheMadScientist]

You might also consider Butia.  I only have photos and knowledge of C. Humilis.  I do NOT have any photos of these with 1 meter of clean trunk nor 60 liter container, but this has thorns and would need at least this much clean trunk for passage.  What I like is out of the same seed batch, you can obtain solitary or multi-suckering.  It is very slow growing, very healthy, low maintenance.  The first photo is my seed donor, I realize it is in a very large 48" square box, but this is more than 40 years old and will stay within your height limit. My first germination was Dec. 2009-Jan. 2010.  Next photo is 5 years after germination 2015 in a 5 gallon container, last photo is 5 year in the ground 2020 where you can see how it fills out with suckers....you get the option to trim to your liking.

 

[Peachs]

Thanks! 
 

What do you think of T. Manipur?

[Jimhardy]

T.Manipur T.Oreophilus T.Latisectus and T.Martianus are not fans of being in pots...

meaning ...they produce limited /small fan leaves..

Edited December 11, 2021 by Jimhardy

[Peachs]

  On 12/11/2021 at 9:38 PM, Jimhardy said:

T.Manipur T.Oreophilus T.Latisectus and T.Martianus are not fans of being in pots...

meaning ...they produce limited /small fan leaves..

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T. Wagnerianus. Because of its compact size, wind resistance ... best option?

Livistona Decipens or W. Robusta maybe limited in zone 8b. 
 

Butia. Occupies too much horizontally.

Thanks!

[Jimhardy]

T.Wagnerianus is always a good option...such a gorgeous palm.

 

I know Washys don't like pot life either unless the pot is oversized

but then again if they are happy they grow so fast and they do have those nasty

shark teeth which anyone who has reached in to trim something and got hooked

by those knows.......there will be blood.

[Las Palmas Norte]

  On 12/12/2021 at 1:06 PM, Jimhardy said:

... and they do have those nasty

shark teeth which anyone who has reached in to trim something and got hooked

by those knows.......there will be blood.

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Many years ago (40) I was moving a 5 gallon sized W. robusta, and carried it along side the house. As I rounded the corner, a gust of wind caught the fronds and the petioles wrapped around my face. I looked like I'd gone thru a plate glass window.

[Peachs]

  On 12/12/2021 at 4:06 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

Many years ago (40) I was moving a 5 gallon sized W. robusta, and carried it along side the house. As I rounded the corner, a gust of wind caught the fronds and the petioles wrapped around my face. I looked like I'd gone thru a plate glass window.

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Discarded W. Robusta.  I have too much trachycarpus.  From the list above, which ones do you think are well potted for many years?

[oasis371]

Maybe it's me, but I am really confused about the location for the planned palms.  Based on the picture, I don't see where there is space for any palms and people to share.

[Peachs]

  On 12/12/2021 at 10:06 PM, oasis371 said:

Maybe it's me, but I am really confused about the location for the planned palms.  Based on the picture, I don't see where there is space for any palms and people to share.

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You're right, I'll finally put it somewhere else.

[oasis371]

Trachycarpus wagnerianus is relatively dwarf and definitely not prickly.

Will provide a pic of my humble, containerized wagnerianus  tomorrow.

 

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[Peachs]

  On 12/12/2021 at 10:23 PM, oasis371 said:

Trachycarpus wagnerianus is relatively dwarf and definitely not prickly.

Will provide a pic of my humble, containerized wagnerianus  tomorrow.

 

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Yes, I think it is one of the best options.  By cons, as you can see in the image I already have 7 T. Fortunei that have a very similar appearance.

[Peachs]

A mule palm is well potted?

[Jimhardy]

Does mini me look like a small Dr Evil?   Maybe

 

I think the differences in T Wag and T.Fort are significant enough to say they are "different"

If you have never grown one you may be in for a wonderful surprise as they are surely the "cutest" Trachy 

[BeyondTheGarden]

I couldn't tell the difference between fortunei and wagnerianus for the first year that I got into palms.  Now when I see a waggy it sticks out like a sore thumb.  I need to get a couple.  As well as some of the other species of Trachycarpus. 

[MSX]

  On 12/10/2021 at 11:24 AM, Peachs said:

Best potted palm tree?

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Chamaerops humilis. I have two of them and both are currently potted. This compact palm is very versatile, you can play with this palm the you want, you can leave the suckers for a nice bushy effect (see attached photos of potted C. humilis at the entrance of Fairmont Le Montreux Palace hotel, Switzerland below) or you can remove them all and leave only the main trunk for a more palmy look. Nice, tough and hardy palm suited for growing in pots.

[Las Palmas Norte]

  On 12/12/2021 at 5:01 PM, Peachs said:

Discarded W. Robusta.  I have too much trachycarpus.  From the list above, which ones do you think are well potted for many years?

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If I was forced to pick one of the three, C. humilis. Any palm will perform far better planted in ground than potted. Those that do grow well potted, eventually suffer once there's heavy root constriction.

[Peachs]

  On 12/13/2021 at 4:00 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

If I was forced to pick one of the three, C. humilis. Any palm will perform far better planted in ground than potted. Those that do grow well potted, eventually suffer once there's heavy root constriction.

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Thank you.  C. Humilis will be chosen.  I will cut all but the central one to maintain a single palm tree.
 

The only thing, very expensive for its slow growth.
 

170€

 

[Las Palmas Norte]

  On 12/13/2021 at 4:31 PM, Peachs said:

 I will cut all but the central one to maintain a single palm tree.

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Any particular reason why you want to cut it back?

[Peachs]

  On 12/13/2021 at 5:31 PM, Las Palmas Norte said:

Any particular reason why you want to cut it back?

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I prefer compact vertical growth for the location.

[Jimhardy]

I would get a smaller one but maybe you like the look of having something more substantial

right away,,,that makes sense, it does in the cold hardy growing world too until you have

to protect it,I like starting with smaller stuff as "pot life" is limited just as the protection

racket is limited unless you don't mind building the tower or Babel,I guess we know 

how that turned out....but the palms aren't talking   Nice choice though for sure!