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Hose end water meter, anyone?

DoomsDave

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I'd like to start taking measure of how much water I'm using in real time. I don't want to fiddle and diddle with the street meter.

Sooner or later, the state or local water companies will start restricting water usage unless we get a lot of rain soon. Which could happen, but I'd rather act than pray.

Anyone have experience regarding hose end water meters that will measure usage?

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Dave with my work we usually use Endress and Hauser flow meters/totalizers but they are probably too expensive for any home owner.  You might want to try something along the lines of this.

https://www.flows.com/3-4-home-water-meter/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwpreJBhDvARIsAF1_BU0rBdItDpHuOUgeEbT7LQPdg73MMgM8Q8Ne1rIGdC5iyf1FvOylF8caAvRXEALw_wcB

These analog flowmeters/totalizers tend to be reliable they only have a small paddle wheel inside.   

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  On 8/31/2021 at 4:16 PM, Chester B said:

Dave with my work we usually use Endress and Hauser flow meters/totalizers but they are probably too expensive for any home owner.  You might want to try something along the lines of this.

https://www.flows.com/3-4-home-water-meter/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwpreJBhDvARIsAF1_BU0rBdItDpHuOUgeEbT7LQPdg73MMgM8Q8Ne1rIGdC5iyf1FvOylF8caAvRXEALw_wcB

These analog flowmeters/totalizers tend to be reliable they only have a small paddle wheel inside.   

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Seems like you should install drip irrigation for the future, Dave.  

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Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

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  On 9/1/2021 at 1:21 PM, sonoranfans said:

Seems like you should install drip irrigation for the future, Dave.  

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I've thought about it, but drip has hassles and problems of its own.

There's the expense and logistics of laying out the system, and purchasing the parts.

The "spaghettis" to the emitters from the pipes have to be inspected regularly, and replaced if they break. (Or, some moron trips over them, and breaks them.)

The emitters in the pots have to be inspected regularly as they can clog with salts, or break.

The flexible plastic pipes and spaghettis sometimes get chewed by animals like raccoons and coyotes and used as drinking fountains.

That last I have a bit of personal experience with. My first California job was at a wholesale nursery in Irvine, and one of my jobs was to check the drip system. That was a big system, and it was a big job. Something, apparently an animal, kept puncturing the flexible pipes and "repellants" didn't work to stop it.

Eventually, one of the laborers caught some coyotes doing it for a drink of agua; the coyotes were trapped, collared and released in another location. When they returned and did the puncture trick again, they were trapped and euthanized. The problem stopped. (Still a bummer.)

So, while drip definitely has its merits, "set and forget" as has been pitched to me, is a myth.

That said, I might still do one for the potted plants.

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Sounds like you have had way worse problems than I did in arizona.  I was told never use emitters that were rated for 1gph or less as they always clogged.  My 2gph emitters were good for about 5 years and were easy to check.   I did bury my lines so not problems with tangling.  With a mature garden, might be microsprayers are best and you dont need so many.  Straight up hose watering probably uses 4x the water, the best water savings is to control each area volume wise and water slowly over night for 4-5 hours.  If soil drains fast, drippers will not improve water use efficiency much and might stunt palms with dry spots.  The more soil surface area you wet, the more are the evaporative losses.  If you have clay, the soil can be wet underneath but not as much on the surface.

Formerly in Gilbert AZ, zone 9a/9b. Now in Palmetto, Florida Zone 9b/10a??

 

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Dave, you should investigate the latest drip products, like Techline EZ 12mm.  Also, the water meter link is for IPS thread, (plumbing), not hose thread.

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  On 9/1/2021 at 1:55 PM, DoomsDave said:

I've thought about it, but drip has hassles and problems of its own.

I only use 1/2" poly pipe.  I can buy 500' rool from HD for like $60 here and I"m sure much cheaper on the mainland.  I don't use that thin tubing for the same reasons you mentioned.  I don't "drip" I have little spray heads  and run the 1/2 poly right to the palms.  They work for years but I do have to wander the 2 acres and make sure the timers are working once a week.  If I see a sudden growth of grass or other weeds then I know there is a leak near by.

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Most emitters are a pain because they clog why did that plant die check the soil and it’s dry check the emitter and it’s not working I switched to bowsmith emitters and haven’t had a problem yet they are pricey but so what if you don’t have dead plants. I have also tried a product called netafim and I would like it but I don’t cover it and their t’s  and elbows are garbage and always breaking 

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