Trachycarpus "Bulgaria" X "Nainital"

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Yep, another impulse purchase off eBay

Arrived yesterday and it's beeyuuutiful!

Modestly priced and well packaged. Advertised as a 1 gallon, looks more like a 3. Even shipped with soil To be honest I don't really know what "Nainital" is supposed to look like other than a thicker trunk and robust growth. I have a Bulgaria,it is much more compact in growth as opposed to this cross. Leaves both have the rigid cardboard feel. Anyway I just wanted to share it. 

[Jimhardy]

Looks like it was grown in some shade...I bet once

it gets going in the sun it will be much more compact and should

be a really stout looking palm...I saw some Nanus x Wagnerianus on

E-Bay too,it was tough to lay off!

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Yes I wondered if it was shade grown or if petioles on Nainital were longer,so I messaged the seller and they confirmed shade grown.

I'd seen the nanus x waggies had to use some restraint

[Jimhardy]

LOL.  I am feeling a slight pull to look at them again...better call my sponsor 

quick...his name is Carl Pool

 

 

PS

 

When that palm gets going post some pics,I bet it

will blossom into quite a nice looking palm...."not that theres anything wrong with it"

 

Ok. (my sponsor didn't answer) I couldn't resist and looked at the Nanus x Waggy luckily its growing in the ground and the picture

was fuzzy so I was able to resist...close one

Edited August 15, 2021 by Jimhardy

[Chris Wilson]

I bought one of these as well, they look so nice. I was a little worried about planting it so late but I guess I’ll just have to protect it really well this winter.

[Jimhardy]

Nice!

[N8ALLRIGHT]

I'm a chicken, I'm potting for now, next year in the ground. Look forward to your progress

[Stevejr]

Is there a difference between Trachycarpus Wagnerianus X ‘Nainital’ and Trachycarpus Bulgaria X ‘Nainital’? Which one is hardier?

[steve617]

2 hours ago, Stevejr said:

Is there a difference between Trachycarpus Wagnerianus X ‘Nainital’ and Trachycarpus Bulgaria X ‘Nainital’? Which one is hardier?

I would think the Bulgaria x Nanital would be a little more cold hardy. The waggie x nanital should have shorter and stiffer fronds. Probably a little slower growing. 

[buffy]

Waggies are less hardy. Period. 

[BeyondTheGarden]

I don't believe anyone has provided solid evidence that bulgaria's are more hardy than regular fortunei.  To my limited knowledge, the regular-ol' vanilla Trachycarpus fortunei is the hardiest trunking palm.  Unless you count old sabal minors or R hystrix that have developed trunks.  

[teddytn]

35 minutes ago, Jesse PNW said:

I don't believe anyone has provided solid evidence that bulgaria's are more hardy than regular fortunei.  To my limited knowledge, the regular-ol' vanilla Trachycarpus fortunei is the hardiest trunking palm.  Unless you count old sabal minors or R hystrix that have developed trunks.  

Don’t forget Sabal Birmingham, takes a long long time to trunk, but when it does it’s a contender for sure 

[BeyondTheGarden]

There are so many wonderful Sabals I know nothing about.  I feel like I never get a good understanding of a palm until I have one and get to know it. 

[teddytn]

27 minutes ago, Jesse PNW said:

There are so many wonderful Sabals I know nothing about.  I feel like I never get a good understanding of a palm until I have one and get to know it. 

Agree completely. I’m familiar with trachys, but not like you guys in the PNW, that’s your bread and butter up there. 

[NWpalms@206]

On 8/15/2021 at 4:35 AM, Jimhardy said:

I saw some Nanus x Wagnerianus on

Just got a Waggie x Nanus Monday from Dave Alverez. Nice little palms. they’re actually from Patrick too. 

[WSimpson]

Nice palm .

I'm hoping my Princeps is a female because Big Daddy Nainital is right behind it . I'll have a Nainital and a Princeps hybrid hopefully .

I'll know whether it is a female in a couple years I think ?

Will

 

Below shows how close they are . Nainital behind the Princeps .

 

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Update on this little palm.

It took the place of a sloooowwww and underperforming takil. This is it's 1st season in the dirt and it's really taking off, lots of new fronds and has turned into a stout looking palm. It definitely likes the full sun and clay it's planted in. I know it won't like winter here much so it'll get protected Dec thru Feb 🤞 hopefully it will be a mild winter

Edited July 8, 2023 by N8ALLRIGHT
Added image

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Update 

This little dude hasn't shot up much yet, but continues to thicken the base of the trunk. Roughly 6 or 7 in at the base. Hopefully poised for vertical growth next year.Did well with protection last winter. We've not had frost yet so everything continues to grow (shell ginger we see you) but it's definitely cooling 50s to 60s day and 40s and 30s night.  Anyways 

[tarnado]

That is a healthy looking lass or lad, time will tell which! I think you'll see some trunk next summer!

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Hopefully no more real cold. It looks pretty good honestly, the outer fronds got crispy but everything inside of those looked great. It's pushing a nice spear,firm. Going to wait a couple weeks and give it some fertilizer. Feels good to work outside 

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Just an update on this dude. Growing like a champ, starting to put out pretty big fronds, maybe 2 ft across. Starting to grow vertical a bit as well 

[JohnAndSancho]

I need some Trachys in my life. 

[N8ALLRIGHT]

On 11/10/2024 at 3:30 PM, N8ALLRIGHT said:

Update 

This little dude hasn't shot up much yet, but continues to thicken the base of the trunk. Roughly 6 or 7 in at the base. Hopefully poised for vertical growth next year.Did well with protection last winter. We've not had frost yet so everything continues to grow (shell ginger we see you) but it's definitely cooling 50s to 60s day and 40s and 30s night.  Anyways 

One year update,this thing is finally starting to go vertical. Pretty impressed with it's growth. I'll probably get it wrapped up in the next month or so. Here's to a mild winter 🤞

[Nickz7 md]

How's it looking this year ?

[N8ALLRIGHT]

It looks like a mummy. It's wrapped up but it looked great 3 weeks ago. I'll post a picture in March, my guess is that it will look good 

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Here you go 

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Plastic top inside the cage to keep it dry. 200 mini lights,pipe heating cable at base covered w/ mulch. 6 layers of 2 oz frost cloth. 55 gallon trash can go over all this if Temp goes below 0

[Las Palmas Norte]

3 hours ago, N8ALLRIGHT said:

... 55 gallon trash can go over all this if Temp goes below 0

Glad you finished with it being a protection device, rather than it's intended purpose.

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Growing palms out here is a dumb idea. If it continues to grow at the rate it's been growing, we'll outgrow the trash can this season.

Good thing I'm dumb 

[JohnAndSancho]

28 minutes ago, N8ALLRIGHT said:

 

Good thing I'm dumb 

You're not the only one. Guess who started a tote full of potting soil and your elephant ear bulbs already? I only put 12 in there and uh, they're quite happy after like 2 days. 

[N8ALLRIGHT]

Atta boy Johnny!

Save a couple for your yard 

[JohnAndSancho]

27 minutes ago, N8ALLRIGHT said:

Atta boy Johnny!

Save a couple for your yard 

I've been splitting them up so I have plenty, trust. I've barely put a dent in the box you sent. I potted up what I *think* was the Pretoria to get it jump started. I'm hoping to get a convoy of blue haired ladies in their F150s out here to clean me out so I can start clean again in the fall. I'm gonna have plenty for mom to look at (she loves them)