What type of palms are these?

[HtownPalms]

Hello everyone! I got the opportunity to go on vacation in Florida last week. While I was there I kept an eye out for palms that had ripe seeds. Some of the palms I got seeds from I knew the identifications of; but most I was unfamiliar with. I was hoping that PT members from Florida could help me figure out what some of these palms are? Here are the palms in question. 

 

First up is Palm Tree #1.

This little fan palm that was at the Marriott resort I was staying at in Key Largo. None of these palms were over 8 foot tall and they had interesting white fruits. 

 

Edited August 10, 2021 by HtownPalms

[Xenon]

Thrinax radiata 

[HtownPalms]

Here is Palm Tree #2.

I think its a spindle palm, but not sure. The seeds that I got looked old so who knows if they are viable. This was at a nursery in Islamorada.

 

[HtownPalms]

Thanks Xenon!

[HtownPalms]

Palm Tree #3.

This one was also at the resort in Key Largo. Had large red seeds. Sorry, the pictures of the whole palm and close up of the seeds are too large for the forum to upload. Not sure why some pics are good and others aren't? 

 

[HtownPalms]

Palm Tree #4.

This one appeared to be the same as Palm #3 until I looked closer. This one had similar red seeds about half the size as Palm #3. Once again this is the only picture of this Palm that would upload. 

[HtownPalms]

I have more palms that I got seeds from, but all of those pictures need to be resized. I will post them as soon as I get the time. Thanks! 

 

[ruskinPalms]

I’m going to say number 2 is an old bottle palm and  3 and 4 are some kind of Veitchia. I’m not the best IDs though! 

[Fusca]

I agree, #3 is probably Veitchia arecina or joannis and #4 might be Veitchia winin with the smaller fruits.  But hard to say for sure from the pics.

Edited August 10, 2021 by Fusca

[HtownPalms]

Thanks for the possible ID'S guys! It at least points me in a direction to start researching. 

[Valhallalla]

Palm #1 is Thrinax radiata native to the Florida keys.

Palm #2 is Hyophorbe verschaffeltii aka Spindle Palm. Pretty easy to tell from H lagenicaulis (Bottle) by the seeds among several other characteristics. Bottles have larger fruit/seed about the size and shape of a grape.

Palm #3 and Palm #4 are both Veitchia though I am uncertain of the species. They are all just Veitchia to me.

Interested to learn what other palms you discovered on your trip.

A not quite ripe Bottle palm fruit/seed below:

 

[HtownPalms]

Thanks Valhallalla! 

I have a couple more palms in my pictures but the forum says they are too big. One I am pretty sure is a Dypsis lutescens. It seemed to be all over south Florida and was used as a privacy hedge in a lot of places. They have slightly orange trunks. The other was a clumping palm in Tampa that looked like a Dypsis lutescens but had completely green stalks and black fruits instead of orange fruits like the Dypsis lutescens. Maybe a different species of Dypsis? 

[Valhallalla]

Dypsis lutescens is ridiculously common here. The other palm sounds like possibly Dypsis cabadae. It doesn't clump as densely as D lutescens and is not nearly as common.

[HtownPalms]

  On 8/11/2021 at 1:09 PM, Valhallalla said:

Dypsis lutescens is ridiculously common here. The other palm sounds like possibly Dypsis cabadae. It doesn't clump as densely as D lutescens and is not nearly as common.

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Yes. From what I saw Dypsis lutescens is almost a weed if south Florida! I looked up Dypsis cabadae and while they look very similar I don't think what I got seeds from is that. This is because D. Cabadae have oblong red fruits where as the palm I got seeds from had dark purple or black round fruits. It was in Tampa at the old 1891 William Plant hotel now part of the University of Tampa campus. It was the only palm of its kind I saw while in Florida.