Calyptrocalyx awa

[miamicuse]

I recently acquired three Calyptrocalyx awa, all of them about 5 to 6 feet in height, so they are close to mature size.

Now I am trying to decide where to plant them.

I have seen some that says mature Calyptrocalyx awa can take full sun, but I am not sure I would risk it...or should I?

Right now I am planning to put them under my 60' giant clusters of tall ficus tree, and my question is, when this palm reaches mature size and continue to grow, will it grow bigger and bigger in diameter at it's base?  It is in a three gallon pot today, and if I plant it say 18" from the edge of a brick driveway, will it grow wider and wider and one day be bounded by the driveway?

How far should I space the three palms?  32 inches apart too close?

[realarch]

I have C. sanumb which appeares to have a similar habit to your C awa. I don’t think you need to worry too much about the size of the clump as it ages, or the distance from the driveway. These are well behaved palms and at 32” spacing you’ll get a nice hedge. Space farther apart if you want to view each palm individually. Thinning them out periodically also lets you control appearance. A bit of shade would help as well.

Tim

[miamicuse]

Thank you, I will keep that in mind.  Good to know they will not "run amok" like areca palms LOL.

[akamu]

Got to love the genus calyptrocalyx do you have any pictures

[Jeff Searle]

I would NOT plant these in our full sun here in south Florida.

[miamicuse]

On 8/2/2021 at 2:15 PM, Jeff Searle said:

I would NOT plant these in our full sun here in south Florida.

Jeff, I got these from you recently, thank you for the tip, I will not be planting them in full sun, it will go under my giant cluster of strangler fig trees, I will try my best to keep the fig roots from getting to them.

On 7/31/2021 at 11:13 PM, akamu said:

Got to love the genus calyptrocalyx do you have any pictures

Yes I have pictures I got them in June from Jeff's nursery.  They are still in pots at the moment but they will be in the grounds soon.

 

[realarch]

Always glad to learn something new! The palm, that I’ve had for years, was acquired as C. sanumb and I never questioned this name. After looking up your palm Sami, mine looked the same and according to Kew, C. sanumb isn’t a valid name. They may be the same. 

Anyway, here’s a photo, whatever it is, of one of my favorite palms. 

Tim

[miamicuse]

very nice.  your palm has a very vibrant green color.  Mine may be exposed to too much sun, I hope it gets better once it has a chance to acclimate when planted.

the tag on my palms says Calyptrocalyx Sp "Awa".  Yours do look very similar.

[miamicuse]

I still haven't had a chance to plant my palms into the ground, but I noticed last two weeks the tallest stems are turning brown quickly.  Is this normal for them to turn brown then wilt like this?

 

The shorter ones are fine.  Just the tallest stems.  Could it be too much water or sun?  But it's under quite a bit of shade, cover fully by three tall Chinese fan palms and a giant ficus above them.

[miamicuse]

I planted the two Calyptrocalyx awa in the ground today under a strangler fig tree.  It's mostly in the shade except some sun from the east in the morning.

I hope it gets better with being in the ground as it didn't seem happy in the 5 gallon pots at all.

I know it is very sensitive to wind, so I am crossing my fingers.

[Kailua_Krish]

Make sure to water them well. Mine did this when the sprinklers broke but they're pretty tough plants.

[miamicuse]

They kept declining in the ground and I decided to put them back into pots.  Slowly but surely they are looking like they are not going to make it.

I don't think they are lacking water.  It rained A LOT last two weeks, and they are in the shade with limited filtered light.

I started to check each stem and one of the stems pulled out real easy along with the roots.  I think I see some rot.

Too late to do anything about?

[Kailua_Krish]

Thats a shame  I wish I had some advice but dont so just want to offer condolences.

[bubba]

Some ancient C.elegans at ANSG:

[miamicuse]

2 hours ago, Kailua_Krish said:

Thats a shame  I wish I had some advice but dont so just want to offer condolences.

Thank you.  I really wanted to know what caused their demise so if I try that again I will have a better chance of success.

or may be I just have brown thumbs.

Edited November 25, 2021 by miamicuse

[miamicuse]

I am going to take both out of the pots and rinse off the soil to examine the roots.  May we soak in H2O2?

[akamu]

Try giving them a drench with a systemic fungicide  you definitely have some root rot going on there.

[miamicuse]

9 hours ago, akamu said:

Try giving them a drench with a systemic fungicide  you definitely have some root rot going on there.

I did just that today, will retreat next weekend and see if they survive.  Thank you.

[realarch]

Sorry to see the decline in your Calyptrocalyx, bummer. I’ve had a few palms have similar setbacks and even if they do recover, they never obtain a healthy, robust state. I’d try and find another specimen rather than waste time waiting for the sick one to make a slow, painful comeback. 

Tim