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Palms Around Town - Jacksonville, FL


Scott W

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15 hours ago, howfam said:

Surely more hardy than a Foxtail, but not as hardy as A. cunninghamiana from what I've heard over the years.  Good luck with all of your palms. BTW- Are there any large Royal Palms in St. Augustine that you know of? 

There’s a house downtown on the water that has large royals in the back. It’s on Avenida menendez or marine street. You may have heard of the large royals in Jacksonville. They’re at a house on the south side that’s on the river. I really want to get a decent size royal to plant in the ground. I actually have a small royal in a pot that’s about 3-4 ft tall. It’s growing well, but I’d rather pay for a bigger one. 

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This is on the A1A North in PVB across the street from the library.

See the Foxtail on the right? I don't know if it was protected or not, but there was no damage to it from the freeze in early February (I live about 4 miles away and got 29F on my thermometer).

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Hey folks! I swung by FSCJ South Campus today to see how the palms were doing after the freezes, cold rains, and strings of chilliness earlier this winter. Late January plunged to the upper 20’s all around Jax. Looking at an old screenshot I’d figure this area saw around 27-28F. It helps that there is a fairly large lake to the south. 

Phoenix rupicola, wonderful to see very little damage except some tip burn on lower fronds (May be a K or manganese deficiency). A strong contender for a hardy Coconut lookalike:A13FC71C-92C2-4567-A3F7-64789D97F462.thumb.jpeg.ca81eabf410af7c4130aacae3910765e.jpeg

Chamaerops humilia “cerifera”, expectedly in food shape:682C0DE6-5366-41A7-A143-1291AAB467DB.thumb.jpeg.081e65657f1c01cd7bef7f4f1557166e.jpeg

Sabal mauritiformis. Not too much to distinguish it from other Sabal’s (other than the more deeply divided leaflets) but it took no obvious damage:

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Acoelorrhaphe wrightii. Beautiful passel but begging for some nutrients it seems:

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Allogoptera arenarium. Now THIS is a looker and doesn’t seem to blink at cold, nutrient deficiencies, or dryness. It almost has Dypsis marojejyi vibes to it!:

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Round 2 coming up!

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Dypsis decaryi up next. Holding up fairly well:
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Livistona Australia looking a bit unhappy (probably more from lack of water or nutrients than the cold). Not a huge bummer In general they don’t look too much different from Sabals anyways:
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Copernicia alba looking good. I’m seeing these planted more and more in my area; the right ones are pretty stunning:A80932C1-F7BE-49B3-81AA-59D119D1E1E2.thumb.jpeg.1b1ee7b697bae41ee2cbf834d1f1099e.jpeg

Bismarckia nobilis, quite a few around here took some damage but not catastrophic:

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Nice mules:
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Brahea armata, glad to see one in good shape around here:

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round 3 coming up

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Sabal dominguensis, HUGE:
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Sabal causiarum, also HUGE:

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Sabal minor, surprisingly large:

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Brahea (brandegeerei?) with whitish undersides:

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Bonus cycad (macrozamia?):
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Oh well, used to be a wodyetia bifurcata here, guess it didn’t make it:

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Arenga engleri, slowly becoming more popular:

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On 11/11/2021 at 8:01 PM, JDawgs said:

It’s a king alexandrae. Some of the fronds were slightly burned, but not too bad. It’s in a north facing spot, but close to the house. It’s been in the ground for over 2 years and I got it as a seedling 3 years ago. It’s definitely more cold hardy than a foxtail palm. 

How did your king fair with through the last few freezes? The ones down the street from me took a beating. One looks like it's a goner. The other two seem to be pushing new fronds.

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Jacksonville Beach, FL

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The king alexander took some damage, but not that bad. The fronds are slightly burned. The foxtail palm is possibly dead unfortunately. It was completely defoliated and I’m waiting to see if the most recent frond is alive or not. 

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On 11/12/2021 at 2:02 PM, JDawgs said:

There’s a house downtown on the water that has large royals in the back. It’s on Avenida menendez or marine street. You may have heard of the large royals in Jacksonville. They’re at a house on the south side that’s on the river. I really want to get a decent size royal to plant in the ground. I actually have a small royal in a pot that’s about 3-4 ft tall. It’s growing well, but I’d rather pay for a bigger one. 

Here's an update on the Royal Palms on Jacksonville's Southside near Goodby's Creek off the St. John's River , March 6, 2022. They did quite good with no major damage. I'd say Royals would be a good gamble for St. Augustine given the right microclimate. 

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18 hours ago, Little Tex said:

how about the foxtail?

I think there's a Foxtail and a Majesty Palm there also.

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On 3/13/2022 at 7:06 PM, CodyORB said:

Bonus cycad (macrozamia?):
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That looks like a Dioon Edule, it's probably at least 30 years old!  They do great anywhere above 20F, and can tolerate upper teens with defoliation.

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On 8/29/2021 at 2:19 PM, howfam said:

Archontophoenix just outside the Jax city limits in Atlantic Beach. Unknown how long it's been there.

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I’ll be interested to see how this palm does. I assume it survived last winter?

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On 6/8/2022 at 11:18 PM, RedRabbit said:

I’ll be interested to see how this palm does. I assume it survived last winter?

I think it survived. I passed by sometime in April and it looked pretty bad, brown fronds with a little green in the center. I'll have to revisit when time permits.   

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On 10/17/2021 at 7:49 PM, kinzyjr said:

@howfam + @Scott W

Has anyone tried Hyphaene coriacea up your way?

I tried a few in 90s and Medemia argun --- lost em ---- not fully hardy here --- 

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On 10/29/2021 at 4:57 PM, JDawgs said:

I have a decent size foxtail palm, queen palm, and Christmas palm in my backyard in St. Augustine. There are also some banana clusters. This past winter was rough. It got down to 27-28 and defoliated the foxtail, but it has come back strong. I also have a triple king palm in the front yard that’s really starting to take off. 
 

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If I were to take a risk what would fair better Christmas palm or the king Alexander? For here in Charleston SC 

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On 6/28/2022 at 6:28 PM, South Carolina palms said:

If I were to take a risk what would fair better Christmas palm or the king Alexander? For here in Charleston SC 

Alexander, definitely, Adonidia is 9b

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On 6/28/2022 at 7:28 PM, South Carolina palms said:

If I were to take a risk what would fair better Christmas palm or the king Alexander? For here in Charleston SC

Alexander handles temperatures between 35F and 45F a lot better than Adonidia.  If you go with Archontophoenix cunninghamiana, you'll give yourself a little more room for error.  All three are more suited for mid-9b and up though.

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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3 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

Alexander handles temperatures between 35F and 45F a lot better than Adonidia.  If you go with Archontophoenix cunninghamiana, you'll give yourself a little more room for error.  All three are more suited for mid-9b and up though.

Do you recommend using incandescent Christmas lights for heating I’ve heard pros and cons about them 

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22 minutes ago, South Carolina palms said:

Do you recommend using incandescent Christmas lights for heating I’ve heard pros and cons about them 

If you can keep the bulbs from touching the plant tissue, it can certainly help.  Ground cables can also help keep the soil temperature up a bit.

Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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Guys I live in Palatka and have recently been bitten by the Palm Bug. Still learning the scientific names but I'd appreciate any advice that you all could throw my way. Currently only have 4 queens, 1 robalini, a triple christmas and several sagos.

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1 hour ago, Thunker said:

Guys I live in Palatka and have recently been bitten by the Palm Bug. Still learning the scientific names but I'd appreciate any advice that you all could throw my way. Currently only have 4 queens, 1 robalini, a triple christmas and several sagos.

Welcome to PalmTalk!  It would be interesting to test out a Royal palm (Roystonea regia) there.

Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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16 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

Welcome to PalmTalk!  It would be interesting to test out a Royal palm (Roystonea regia) there.

That's exactly one I want. I never paid attention to these palms before about a month ago and Last weekends trip to Siesta Key sealed the deal.  Royals everywhere and I fell in love.  Now I  Just need to find one

 

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On 6/12/2022 at 6:47 PM, howfam said:

I think it survived. I passed by sometime in April and it looked pretty bad, brown fronds with a little green in the center. I'll have to revisit when time permits.   

I finally passed by this house in Atlantic Beach again to find the palms survived last winter and are recovering nicely.  Which Archontophoenix they are , I don't know.

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On 6/8/2022 at 11:18 PM, RedRabbit said:

I’ll be interested to see how this palm does. I assume it survived last winter?

July  2022

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