palmtrees garden in Spain

[manuel2021]

I had to update my username i could not retreive my password, i post for those who helped me decide which trees to plant and show interest in my previous thread.

 

The datepalns are 3 different varieties, Medjoul invitro from Urbapalms Elche, Deglet nour from a date production in Valencia,  and an hybrid very productive from Murcia. I have the males of Deglet Nour and the other cross from Murcia to pollinate and keep this varietie as they comes here. The medjoul will benefit from their pollen too. I do not have a male medjoul yet.

 

some could think the double datepalm was planted too high, it came with maybe 3 meters cube root mass, and the roots were going up the trunk 50 cm , and we digged some soil around the tress after but we added 15 tonnes or more of vegetal soil around, all the trees are doing fine now, i had some fungus issues due to the rain we experienced during transplant.

 

We added maybe 40 tonnes of vegetal soil, lot of straw, 10 tonnes of horse and young goat manures. Plus all the fertiliser i baught Manganese, 2 kind of Potash, Projar organic, Mag, quelato de hierro, sulfate amoniac, bacteries, etc...

 

 

Edited April 21, 2021 by manuel2021

[LivistonaFan]

  On 4/21/2021 at 5:06 AM, manuel2021 said:

I had to update my username i could not retreive my password, i post for those who helped me decide which trees to plant and show interest in my previous thread.

 

The datepalns are 3 different varieties, Medjoul invitro from Urbapalms Elche, Deglet nour from a date production in Valencia,  and an hybrid very productive from Murcia. I have the males of Deglet Nour and the other cross from Murcia to pollinate and keep this varietie as they comes here. The medjoul will benefit from their pollen too. I do not have a male medjoul yet.

 

some could think the double datepalm was planted too high, it came with maybe 3 meters cube root mass, and the roots were going up the trunk 50 cm , and we digged some soil around the tress after but we added 15 tonnes or more of vegetal soil around, all the trees are doing fine now, i had some fungus issues due to the rain we experienced during transplant.

 

We added maybe 40 tonnes of vegetal soil, lot of straw, 10 tonnes of horse and young goat manures. Plus all the fertiliser i baught Manganese, 2 kind of Potash, Projar organic, Mag, quelato de hierro, sulfate amoniac, bacteries, etc...

 

 

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Hello (I assume you are @pete21?),

nice to see you and your palm trees again.  I read in the news that Madrid and many other parts of Spain had a quite cold winter. Was your area affected as well? I guess not, because your palms look nice (maybe the crowns of some palms are a bit on the small side, but after one or two growing seasons they will definitely look splendid). Did you get some edible dates from your date palms yet?

I also hope that the your Jubaeas are well established by now and that they will start to grow faster soon. My Jubaea took a while as well to get established and I am sure it will thrive from this year on.

Edited April 21, 2021 by LivistonaFan

[LivistonaFan]

Sorry that I could not help you with your date palms in your previous posts, but honestly I don't know much about them. I have only some small Medjool and Mazafati date palms from seed + another variety which I don't know the name of. Since last summer the first ones have started to grow pinnate leaves, but I probably won't plant them in the ground, because there is no chance to obtain edible dates from them due to the cooler summers in the northern Mediterranean and there are other palms that will grow quicker in my climate. This year I will probably plant some Parajubaea (sunkha and microcarpa) that have  proven themselfs to grow even at cool temperatures.  I will also plant some Brahea like B. supersilver or B. dulcis. Latter ones are now pushing out leaves at Washingtonia-speed which is very surprising.

[manuel2021]

Hi LivistonaFan, how are you? yes it has been very cold, 3 waves of cold indeed, still not warm yet, i have not got any dates yet, this season maybe or the next one?

there was snow at hundred meters away this winter on the mountains.

The jubaeas are well established now i hope they will grow faster but even if they keep their slow style, its ok.

the winter affected the reclinatas, and the robelini only. I just throw some hrose and goart manure and i complete my spring fertilisation with success, each time a good rain right after.

yes some crowns stuill look small, i planted a datepalm from Murcia that was 3 meters of circunference trunk, this and the canariensis female with long fronds grows smaller now, i guess they have to acclimate slowly and it depends of the volume of water given before too and their soil, some give much more water than I, and this plays a role in the crowd, i guess its hard to compete when 3 m circunference trunk arrives, it grows a small crown but its ok. I think bigger trunk grows slower maybe too. And my soil at ph 8, 5 does not help. so i lower it with the straw, and sulfur, and amoniac and this pellets of organic from Projar.  100 m3 of water during june july august i used.

i had trouble with rainy weather during transplant with the Deglet Nour and its known to support badly moisture, they are recovering now.

first year I fumigated the tress each months, and now every 3 months, and less if we have dates soon.

2 small datepalm had the red weevil  and died, but they left young shots growing, and one deglet nour was affected by the "paysandia" they were fumigated but we will see, another canariensis too shows some holes in the fronds a male canariensis and it was treated and he is ok now. 

I have a 3 meters of height Deglet nour who shows a worm geting out the trunk, i thaught it was what they call here the "Paysandia" and it has been topped a lot before to arrive by the owner, this winter a whole frond broke and fall from the heart, i was surprised, so i can a serious eye on him now, in case. I hope he is not dying. the heart has been burned a bit but still strong.

Edited April 21, 2021 by manuel2021

[Palmfarmer]

  On 4/21/2021 at 9:11 AM, manuel2021 said:

Hi LivistonaFan, how are you? yes it has been very cold, 3 waves of cold indeed, still not warm yet, i have not got any dates yet, this season maybe or the next one?

there was snow at hundred meters away this winter on the mountains.

The jubaeas are well established now i hope they will grow faster but even if they keep their slow style, its ok.

the winter affected the reclinatas, and the robelini only. I just throw some hrose and goart manure and i complete my spring fertilisation with success, each time a good rain right after.

yes some crowns stuill look small, i planted a datepalm from Murcia that was 3 meters of circunference trunk, this and the canariensis female with long fronds grows smaller now, i guess they have to acclimate slowly and it depends of the volume of water given before too and their soil, some give much more water than I, and this plays a role in the crowd, i guess its hard to compete when 3 m circunference trunk arrives, it grows a small crown but its ok. I think bigger trunk grows slower maybe too. And my soil at ph 8, 5 does not help. so i lower it with the straw, and sulfur, and amoniac and this pellets of organic from Projar.  100 m3 of water during june july august i used.

i had trouble with rainy weather during transplant with the Deglet Nour and its known to support badly moisture, they are recovering now.

first year I fumigated the tress each months, and now every 3 months, and less if we had dates soon.

 

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Beatiful little oasis you made there. Looks great! What species are you currently growing? Plan to plant more species? where in Spain are you? climate zone? 

Lastly what is that palm I can only see the trunk on? 

[manuel2021]

PalmFarmer, i am behind Benicassim, this is a wahsingtonian with the trunk cleaned. "cepillado" in spanish. they look even more orange the first year,  

3 types of datepalms

washingtonian 

canariensis

12 Jubaeas

reclinata

butia

rebellini

cretan palm

2 sylvestri who stayed so green so strong during bad time.

blue palm mexican, dont remember their name now

 

I am not growing to grow anymore trees here due to the heat in summer and the number i already planted, i can recycle the rain with all my roofs but i do not have a well yet, and even if i had more water now, i do not think i will plant more cause i am by myself to maintain all and its a lot of work for me already. my water bills are still ok to pay and help me with summer dry time. if the water increase i will try to get a well , its marked already, twice.  we have the roof to redo first. and I use a stone water tank 150 years old, we reformed, the water is icy cold during 50 degrees heat summer time, its amazing, i use it for the rain water and dechlore the city water when needed.

 

 

 

the professional who cleaned these trunks says its better to do it cause otherwise sometimes the trunk grows weird and become smaller etc, and cleaning it, allows better faster problems detection and impeach the trunk to grow strange in the future.

Edited April 21, 2021 by manuel2021

[Palmfarmer]

Very beatiful! Yes lookng at that list you defintly have enough. Love the cactus. I think planting some Agave tequilanas around the property there would compliment the palms very nicely and they barely need water if ever. You Can obtain 2 agaves and plant them and within a couple of months they will start to produce pups that you can dig up and plant around on other parts of your property and soon you have a hole tequila farm  

[manuel2021]

yes it be nice a tequilafarm, i like growing plants who produce something "util" lol.

i got 7 queen palms too, some suffered this winter. I got around 75 palmtress planted.

there is thousands of olive trees and almonds trees here, i got 100 almonds tress too, they live on natural flooding, and i expect my palmtress will survive too if for some reasons i am not here, some will remians, its an ex fluvial zone here with round stones, and clay yellow 3 ft deep, lot of oligo elements, the goal is to have the root reach 60-80 cm deep and maybe its enough, i will keep watering but i planned this plantation on profiting of this natural flooding zone, so the first 2 years were important.

my biggest water bill is 200 e for 3 months of summer and is so little for the pleasure seeing the tress everyday.

I used two kind of sands during transplant and add some argil expanded balls, the construction sand that was washed hours before use and some silice sand.

 

Edited April 21, 2021 by manuel2021

[manuel2021]

I should have say, Mexican Palm instead of washingtonian, indeed,  not to sound idiot or arrivist like washington... as i heard a friend of mine son of a politician in Mexico saying California new mexico texas and arizona were part of Mexico before and were sold for 5 k dollars, i wander if this is the reason why mexican palm are in palm springs,

anyway i will let mine unprunned like in palm springs.

[manuel2021]

here is the Deglet Noor, if some can confirm, it comes from Valencia a date plantation where a familly used to live with dates sales. i do not know when it has started there. i guessed it ended 10 or 20 years ago when the new owner baught the land.

i post a google image about Deglet Noor too.

a new frond broke from this tall palmtree and it may have  rotten a bit from this winter.  his brother nearby is healing now, and has started with a much bigger greener crown that when they were burned during transplant. I found a big white worn on this tree trunk.

it was trimmed at that point due to the burned frond during transplant, some side front with a very green color different than medjool and the dark color trunk, i am the one who cleaned the trunk using the corbelotte from Rocamora in Spain, I attached images, hard to use it, on your wrists.

these corbelotte end up vintage and are looked for when they comes with the R from Rocamora, and i got the TP model made by Rocamora for Todopalmera the online shop of Miguel Angel a famous palmerero. Have an eye to their website for their works. It seems easier cleaning a canariensis trunk than a dactylifera. and the canariensis end up cleaner.

https://www.herramientasrocamora.com/

https://www.todopalmera.com/

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by manuel2021

[manuel2021]

 

the artist explaining how to sand the corvillon keeping the stone flat , is the best way , otherwise its not good.

 

here a video from Miguel Angel todopalmera. not sure this is the tallest palm he climbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LO6W1_55Wo

working at 30 meters height.

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by manuel2021

[AZ_Palm_Guy]

@manuel2021 you have some good looking palms! Did you ever figure out what had happened to your date palms and the fronds that were drying out? I am currently having the same issue. I just had a deglet transplanted about a month ago and it is showing similar symptoms of fronds on the inside drying. 

[manuel2021]

yes AZ_Palm_guy i should have put some fungicide, any kind to the roots,  during transplant or after, deglet noor is fragile.

i haven't use any fungicide and they are recovering now. big mistake with the deglet noor, this weeks lot of rain and i put some neem oil and fungicide, if it rains more than 4 days i watch them well and add something. i keep some a small glass jar facing south around the trunk ( where its warm)  filled with neem oil, to try to prevent the red weevil too, and when it rains, the jar filled with water and fall around help the roots to avoid rooting and fungi issues, ( much better to me than those traps atracting them using a product they like)

they are on their way to recovery now, with a much bigger crown, healthy etc...but today on small medjoul i found holes in the fronds again, that is why i post a thread about the Cayenne peppper for the red weevil.

 

i cut the dried fronds but the wind was hurting the new ones, so the best is to leave 30% of the fronds if you have to cut any. so they protect the rest. but it took them 8 to 12 months to recover, it was long and stressfull. and they havent recovered fully yet, i was told 2 years and its whats gonna happenned.

i was using a product for the red weevil only and i switch to a product for both paysandia and red weevil. this deglet noor is the one i found a white larbe inside the trunk, and another deglet i found holes in the fronds, not sure if its  an insect the red weevil or paysandia, lot of doubts and issues going on indeed, some telling me to slow down on fumigation, and some telling em to do it every months, some saying the fact to throw water like this all the time in the crown to fumigate it, is bad for the tree and rotting on top of the fumigation products, that are chemicals.

 

I let some birds seeds around and i noticed the straw i added to lower ph soil and help water retention, attracts birds and they can eat weevil eggs , as the earwings. adding stones around the tree and plenty or earwings comes. they eat larves. 

 

The paysandia could have affected the tree you asked, i have 4 affected by the transplant, 2 small, 2 talls,  they were very healthy before with a fabulous crown. they wree probably already infested before they arrived here, its the risk when you get new trees in. another small died and left a young offshoot  growing there alone. it was infested with maybe 30 big larves inside a small trunk. the small trunk was half empty.

 

Edited April 27, 2021 by manuel2021

[manuel2021]

here is the 3 other deglet noor who suffered and are recovering now, my hands was scratched with my wild cat it looks terrible.

 1/ tall Deglet with a bigger crown now, on his recovery

2/ a small Deglet with green fronds

3/ other small deglet with lot of new fronds.

4/ i noticed the two Deglet noor who comes with lot of offshoots, like between 10 and 20 offshoots growing around are the ones who perfectly survived the transplant during the heavy rains, loosing  few offshoots but they stayed green, but shows some brown spots fungus/hongos on oldest fronds from moisture problems.

 

Edited April 27, 2021 by manuel2021

[AZ_Palm_Guy]

@manuel2021 that is unfortunate that happened. But that is true, you do run the risk when transplanting large palms of any kind. Well I'm glad to hear that they are on the road to recovery. And you were able to save them. Here is what I'm experiencing:

First picture is today.  Fronds are still green and the palm looks bad.. But ok.

Second picture is a close up of it. You can see that the leaflets have begun to dry out. They are not crunchy dry yet but are becoming dry.

The third photo is a picture of the newest spear in the center that I can see. It is still green and not dry like the other two new fronds next to it. 

I'm just hoping I am doing all that I can to ensure it makes it. I was able to successfully transplant the medjool (medjoul) to the right as it has almost been a year for that one and it has tremendous growth inside coming out.

[manuel2021]

yes mine started like this too. you got nice palmtrees.

i will add some fungicide quickly and every once in a  while during heavy rain until the tree is fine.

and if it start its like irreversible, so the sooner the better, hopefully its not like when the red weevil traits appears its almost already too late. its good they pruned a few fronds though, mine were not pruned at all.  I wander if this kind of problem are inevitable with 50% of Deglet during transplant. just wait and its worth it.

maybe its worth buying a ph paper test and test your soil, if its too high, there might be a bit of feeding blockage....i used the sulfate amonium? and sulfur to lower the ph and adding lot of organic stuff compost help lower it. i added peat moss and sand too.

what is the tall palmtree on the left?

upon reading i noticed manganese and potassium was the most important so i baught some bags of each separate fert, epsom salt etc... i did a mistake fumigating once, i fell really bad so i double my efforts and my tress have received a lot of feeding, organic and minerals.

 i used a lot of "quelato de hierro" the red powder. this helps a lot too. The tubes i set up to send water to the lower roots was used often on these.

this spring only i used 300 kgs of fert in bags and maybe 1 tonne or more of manures.

 

Edited April 27, 2021 by manuel2021

[AZ_Palm_Guy]

Thank you. And unfortunately it came with a bunch of fronds. I eventually removed a good amount because I knew it was not helping the tree at all. Yes I will have to wait and see. It has almost been one month since transplant and I have been good about watering it. I honestly dont know if it is just a deglet issue either. But from looking at yours and mine, the shock was pretty tremendous.

My ph is between a high 6 and 7.5. And I have been told not to add any compost or fertilizer for awhile since it is still brand new field dug palm. But my palm trees dont seem to mind the clay soil I have here.

The palm on the left is also a medjool. It will be almost one year since I had it put in. The center where the canopy is has so much new growth. It is really taking off. And yes I do have all the other nutrient stuff for my palms. 

[manuel2021]

great, nice tall Medjool, your ph is ideal!

[AZ_Palm_Guy]

@manuel2021 so today I was able to buy 2 Halawi (Halawy) date palms today. They are both really well rooted and are in 15 gal containers. 

[manuel2021]

Nice little trees, they look great!

look this is what I found quickly about the Deglet, not much infos indeed. The Deglet may not want be water too much. I had like 2 months of rain when i transplanted the 7 Deglet noor. Yours may just be a sign of classic shock transplant.

with numerous
air roots developing near the stem base, especially at uncultivated sites. The long term
performance of 'Deglet Noor' in median strips or cramped sites tends to be poor, especially if
palms were procured from a flood irrigated grove in comparison to a drip irrigated grove. 'Deglet
Noor' transplanted into a cramped site tends to develop a dense air root mat. This condition
ultimately affects water and nutrient delivery, lending to an overall poor palm condition. The
ornamental use of 'Deglet Noor' is best suited to an open situation in a climate of low rainfall and
low humidity

"a leading date in Algeria and Tunisia; and in the latter country it is grown in inland oases and is the chief export cultivar. It was introduced into California in 1900 and now constitutes 75% of the California crop. It is semi-dry, not very sweet; keeps well; is hydrated before shipping. Much used for cooking. The palm is high yielding but not very tolerant of rain and atmospheric humidity.

Edited April 28, 2021 by manuel2021

[AZ_Palm_Guy]

Well that is some good information.  So it does seem like yours were suffering from too much water and shock. From the amount of rain you're talking about that must have really hurt them.  As for me no rain yet. So it'll be interesting to see how long it'll take to recover compared to yours. From this point forward to about end of October temperatures will be between 85°F and 110°F with low humidity where I live. Only time will tell now. Thanks for sharing that information it'll really help.

[manuel2021]

Some of the first spathe/flowers on these young invitro medjool

Edited May 7, 2021 by manuel2021

[AZ_Palm_Guy]

@manuel2021 so I went to take a look under the burlap I put on my deglet today and look what I found. Looks like she's recovering nicely from the transplant shock. New spears inside are also super green!

How are all your palms doing? Hopefully no red weevil attacks.

Edited June 9, 2021 by AZ_Palm_Guy

[manuel2021]

Hi AZ_ Palm_Guy, 

nice your tree is pulling some pollen,  here its going very well, but we had lot of rain and i needed to clen the garden with a "desbrozadora" without harness, ( I feel like the windsurfer Greg Maisonville in Hawaii who navigated without harness) lol..and my arms are in pain now...the weed in my garden grows like crazy dus to all the animals manures and seeds inside, i knew it, i wnated it, but i am tired now.. 

Glad youtr tree are growing well.

 

Edited June 9, 2021 by manuel2021

[wimmie]

  On 4/21/2021 at 9:53 AM, manuel2021 said:

PalmFarmer, i am behind Benicassim, this is a wahsingtonian with the trunk cleaned. "cepillado" in spanish. they look even more orange the first year,  

3 types of datepalms

washingtonian 

canariensis

12 Jubaeas

reclinata

butia

rebellini

cretan palm

2 sylvestri who stayed so green so strong during bad time.

blue palm mexican, dont remember their name now

 

I am not growing to grow anymore trees here due to the heat in summer and the number i already planted, i can recycle the rain with all my roofs but i do not have a well yet, and even if i had more water now, i do not think i will plant more cause i am by myself to maintain all and its a lot of work for me already. my water bills are still ok to pay and help me with summer dry time. if the water increase i will try to get a well , its marked already, twice.  we have the roof to redo first. and I use a stone water tank 150 years old, we reformed, the water is icy cold during 50 degrees heat summer time, its amazing, i use it for the rain water and dechlore the city water when needed.

 

 

 

the professional who cleaned these trunks says its better to do it cause otherwise sometimes the trunk grows weird and become smaller etc, and cleaning it, allows better faster problems detection and impeach the trunk to grow strange in the future.

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Manuel, this photo shows -on the right side- a Phoenix, I guess it's canariensis, in black plastic which has yellow/orange rachis for the full length of the leave. That is a variety that I am looking for for years. Can you help? I live in Holland.

[manuel2021]

  On 6/9/2021 at 10:04 PM, wimmie said:

Manuel, this photo shows -on the right side- a Phoenix, I guess it's canariensis, in black plastic which has yellow/orange rachis for the full length of the leave. That is a variety that I am looking for for years. Can you help? I live in Holland.

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Wimmie, I lost his contcat i went to search for the seller and i think its him, contact him by email, and chect it out. if its my seller he had some with very long fronds, superb ones.

https://www.milanuncios.com/plantas/palmeras-canarias-401578737.htm

 

i paid 100 euros each tree myself, a female with 4,5 meters frond and a male with 3 meters fronds, , the size you see on the image is when i got them .they were huge for 100 euros, the year after he wanted 200 e for, 2 years ago, the large one are ok, but i paid a smaller one 20e which is nothing but he had the red weevil inside. so you know, the larger ones are very healthy they are are good ones. i saw him watering them, like a rio of 50 cm deep water going through the palm, they dont pay water and they water using like a rio, with huge pìpes. thats probably how he keeps the larger ones healthy by killing the red weevil in 3/4 of the trunk using that style of watering.

he was a very nice guy well organized to work with, he may be able to get you the paper work to get them to holland and with fretbay or another site you can find a trasnporter, it worth it cause he is 3 or 4 time cheaper than corporates around,  and his canariensis are huge. we had trouble planting the female cause it was so unbalanced between the root mass and the too long 4,5 meters fronds...hard to plant it well vertical,  it kept going horizontal in the lift....

Edited June 11, 2021 by manuel2021

[wimmie]

Thanks, Manuel!

[Hutch]

Just Awesome ...hope to get to Spain one day...looks like things are settling in!

[Arecaceus]

  On 4/21/2021 at 7:03 AM, LivistonaFan said:

Sorry that I could not help you with your date palms in your previous posts, but honestly I don't know much about them. I have only some small Medjool and Mazafati date palms from seed + another variety which I don't know the name of. Since last summer the first ones have started to grow pinnate leaves, but I probably won't plant them in the ground, because there is no chance to obtain edible dates from them due to the cooler summers in the northern Mediterranean and there are other palms that will grow quicker in my climate. This year I will probably plant some Parajubaea (sunkha and microcarpa) that have  proven themselfs to grow even at cool temperatures.  I will also plant some Brahea like B. supersilver or B. dulcis. Latter ones are now pushing out leaves at Washingtonia-speed which is very surprising.

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Hey I'm currently growing B. dulcis from seed. Did you as well? You said "are now puhsing out leaves at Washingtonia speed". What do you mean by that? Do they start slow and get faster or are you saying they are faster than expected in general? 😁

[LivistonaFan]

  On 12/15/2022 at 7:21 PM, Hortulanus said:

Hey I'm currently growing B. dulcis from seed. Did you as well? You said "are now puhsing out leaves at Washingtonia speed". What do you mean by that? Do they start slow and get faster or are you saying they are faster than expected in general? 😁

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Hi, I bought 2 B. dulcis as strap leaf sized seedlings , but have germinated countless Washingtonia robusta + filifera, about 25 B. supersilver, some B. Clara, only one B. Moorei (which sadly died), B. Brandegeii etc.  Therefore I had a general idea of the growth speed of Brahea vs Washingtonia and was very surprised to see one of the B. dulcis pushing out as many leaves/year as my several W. filifera. I planted both B. dulcis soon after, but the quicker one got trampled by someone and did not recover. The other one is still growing beneath some weeds. 

You can see it here (last post): 

(After the last photo it has pushed its first palmate leaves) 

[Arecaceus]

  On 12/16/2022 at 7:18 AM, LivistonaFan said:

Hi, I bought 2 B. dulcis as strap leaf sized seedlings , but have germinated countless Washingtonia robusta + filifera, about 25 B. supersilver, some B. Clara, only one B. Moorei (which sadly died), B. Brandegeii etc.  Therefore I had a general idea of the growth speed of Brahea vs Washingtonia and was very surprised to see one of the B. dulcis pushing out as many leaves/year as my several W. filifera. I planted both B. dulcis soon after, but the quicker one got trampled by someone and did not recover. The other one is still growing beneath some weeds. 

You can see it here (last post): 

(After the last photo it has pushed its first palmate leaves) 

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Ah thank you! Sounds great. I've grown Washingtonias from seed before and I'm pretty happy with the growth rate even with filifera. It's funny because B. dulcis seeds look exactly like Washy seeds.

[wimmie]

  On 4/21/2021 at 9:53 AM, manuel2021 said:

PalmFarmer, i am behind Benicassim, this is a wahsingtonian with the trunk cleaned. "cepillado" in spanish. they look even more orange the first year,  

3 types of datepalms

washingtonian 

canariensis

12 Jubaeas

reclinata

butia

rebellini

cretan palm

2 sylvestri who stayed so green so strong during bad time.

blue palm mexican, dont remember their name now

 

I am not growing to grow anymore trees here due to the heat in summer and the number i already planted, i can recycle the rain with all my roofs but i do not have a well yet, and even if i had more water now, i do not think i will plant more cause i am by myself to maintain all and its a lot of work for me already. my water bills are still ok to pay and help me with summer dry time. if the water increase i will try to get a well , its marked already, twice.  we have the roof to redo first. and I use a stone water tank 150 years old, we reformed, the water is icy cold during 50 degrees heat summer time, its amazing, i use it for the rain water and dechlore the city water when needed.

 

 

 

the professional who cleaned these trunks says its better to do it cause otherwise sometimes the trunk grows weird and become smaller etc, and cleaning it, allows better faster problems detection and impeach the trunk to grow strange in the future.

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Manuel, at the right in the first photo, you have a Phoenix (I guess canariensis} with an all yellow rachis. Do you know whether that is a variety of canariensis? And....., where did you get it?

[AZ_Palm_Guy]

@manuel2021any updates on your palm trees?