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Another ID quiz

Gileno Machado
Gileno Machado
in DISCUSSING PALM TREES WORLDWIDE

Featured Replies

# 1

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
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# 1 again (spear detail)

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 2

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 3

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 4

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 5

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 6

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 7

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 8

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 9

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
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Last one # 10 (at the Old Recife Law School)

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

As usual, these are pretty tough...

#1 - Caryota maxima (gigas, obtusa...???)

#2 - Cocos nucifera

#3 - Pritchardia?

#4 - Dypsis lepthocheilos

#5 - Allagoptera (Polyandrococcos) caudescens

#6 - ??

#7 - Coccothrinax (no idea of species)

#8 - Phoenix roebelinii

#9 - Are you kidding??

#10 - Phoenix paludosa

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

Sheesh!  Here's a stab in the dark:

1. Dypsis leptochielos

2. Archontophoenix alexandrae

3. Pritchardia pacifica

4. Burretiokentia koghiensis

5. Arenga brevipes

6. Brahea nitida

7. Coccothrinax borhidiana

8. Syagrus botryophora

9. Gaussia maya

10 Phoenix theoprasti

Matt, you always beat me to it but I think that this time I've got as good of chance as any......Nice quiz Gileno...next time make it harder.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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OK, is this a Matt x Matt contest? This time the SD one is winning:

#5 Allagoptera caudescens

#8 Phoenix roebelenii

Correct genus:

#1 Caryota (?)

#7 Coccothrinax (?)

#10 Phoenix (?)

Let me zoom out a few pictures to make things easier for you:

Californian # 3:

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

# 2 (common palm for you guys but I had to bring this one from São Paulo, they don't have them here at Wal Marts...)

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
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#6 (Only common stuff in this Quiz...)

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Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers
  • Author

#4 is one of the most common palms in the States...monotypic genus originated from beautiful islands...

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

I should never, ever try to guess at an ID.....

But you did say it was a "common" palm.

It sure looks like a Ravenea rivularis to me.  Or am I nuts?

(Ooops, forgot to mention, I was talking about #2)

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good
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Yes Sunny, and I should have planted it in the ground by now...

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

#3 is W. filifera from Jack if my eyes serve me well.

N48° 19'12.42", E18°06'50.15"

continental climate somewhat moderated by the influence of the mediterranean sea, atlantic ocean and north sea water masses but still prone to arctic blasts from the east as well as hot and dry summers. pushing the limits is exciting.

#6 should be Livistona rotundifolia

N48° 19'12.42", E18°06'50.15"

continental climate somewhat moderated by the influence of the mediterranean sea, atlantic ocean and north sea water masses but still prone to arctic blasts from the east as well as hot and dry summers. pushing the limits is exciting.

4 is Cocos Nucifera and 2 is Ravenea rivularis.

Zac

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

Oh yeah 10 is Phoenix sylvestris

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

...and that photo with a dragon fly is awesome!

N48° 19'12.42", E18°06'50.15"

continental climate somewhat moderated by the influence of the mediterranean sea, atlantic ocean and north sea water masses but still prone to arctic blasts from the east as well as hot and dry summers. pushing the limits is exciting.

1.  Caryota mitis

6.  Livistona chinensis

7.  Coccothrinax crinita

9.  Cocos nucifera?

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

#4 looks kinda like a Rhopalostylis Baueri.   ( It also looks more like a Kentiopsis Magnifica, but I wouldn't call that common!)   I think the Howea F (Kentia ) is common here but doesn't look like that!

Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

(BS, Man about Palms @ Aug. 07 2006,01:35)

QUOTE
#4 looks kinda like a Rhopalostylis Baueri.   ( It also looks more like a Kentiopsis Magnifica, but I wouldn't call that common!)   I think the Howea F (Kentia ) is common here but doesn't look like that!

Bill,

plus neither one of those two genera is monotypic.

Cheers, Jan

N48° 19'12.42", E18°06'50.15"

continental climate somewhat moderated by the influence of the mediterranean sea, atlantic ocean and north sea water masses but still prone to arctic blasts from the east as well as hot and dry summers. pushing the limits is exciting.

I agree that #4's leaf looks like a R. baueri, but the spear is wrong shape and color.

I'll guess Dictosperma album var. rubrum.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

The only other thing I can think of is Satakentia liukiuensis.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

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Congrats MattyB:

1- Caryota mitis

3- Washingtonia filibusta (according to Jack, but this is not from his seeds yet...)

4- D. album rubra (piece of cake, come on...)

6- Livistona chinensis

7- Coccothrinax barbadensis

9- Cocos nucifera hybrid, weird trunk.

Thanks for the guesses/comments, folks.

I'm not so shure about the Phoenix species in # 10. Can anybody help please?

Sirinhaém beach, 80 Km south of Recife - Brazil

Tropical oceanic climate, latitude 8° S

Temperature extremes: 25 to 31°C

2000 mm average rainfall, dry summers

D. album rubra!!!!! I pulled that out of my you know what.  Wooooo hoooooooo!    That's the best I've ever done on a Gileno Quiz.  So, what's the final point count Gileno?  Maybe I finally beat Matt in SD.....that'll be a first!

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Dude, I was offline all weekend...I kicked your A*# in round one and would have kept kickin it later rounds!  Oh well, go ahead and revel in your false glory.

Matt

San Diego

0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle

East of Mount Soledad, in the biggest cold sink in San Diego County.

Zone 10a (I hope), Sunset 24

Allright, I was afraid it would come down to this:  This forum just isn't big enough for both of the Matt's.  Your mediocre palm knowledge and my superior wit make for an awful clash.  To avoid further embarassment I suggest you cease and desist your sarcastic taunts and you may be lucky enough to avoid my Kung Fu Allagoptera Grip that will put you to sleep.  I will be ready next quiz I promise you.  This isn't over yet....... :angry:

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Gileno, the phoenix looks to me more like a loureiroi than a sylvestris.

ok Riffle. I was just guessing. I am by no means an expert in Phoenices. I bow to your superior knowledge, oh palm book writing god.

The Boy

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

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