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Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread


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7 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

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One of mine double that height lived . Then died this August. 
Shame, but still a good marginal palm.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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Hello out there,

I'm new to this forum and also I'm not settled in the US but anyway I got a Butia related question about a here native myth, introduced by some self called experts.
In my thread I already told about it and @Merlyn asked me to question here.

So the Butia myth is, that the darker the plants petioles are, the more frost tolerated they are.  In my thread you can see my two specimen.
The #1 has green particles on the petioles even long time after having cut-off the leave VS. #2 which has some deep dark petiole from the buttom fading upwards to green.
So the so-called experts say that #1 would be a lot less winter hardy than #2.

After having read some pages in that topic I'm still not sure wether there are enough Butias in the Palmageddon zone to investigate that.

Thank you folks

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18 hours ago, GermanDennis said:

Hello out there,

I'm new to this forum and also I'm not settled in the US but anyway I got a Butia related question about a here native myth, introduced by some self called experts.
In my thread I already told about it and @Merlyn asked me to question here.

So the Butia myth is, that the darker the plants petioles are, the more frost tolerated they are.  In my thread you can see my two specimen.
The #1 has green particles on the petioles even long time after having cut-off the leave VS. #2 which has some deep dark petiole from the buttom fading upwards to green.
So the so-called experts say that #1 would be a lot less winter hardy than #2.

After having read some pages in that topic I'm still not sure wether there are enough Butias in the Palmageddon zone to investigate that.

Thank you folks

Not a whole lot of Butias planted in central and south Texas. They just don’t grow well in the soils here so honestly I don’t know the answer to your question. May have better luck asking someone from the southeast US such as Georgia or South Carolina. 

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Looks like this yard has replaced the 3 tall robusta that died last year with 3 Home Depot Washingtonias in the same place. Let's see if these can make it to 30 feet tall and how fast 

 

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1 hour ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Incredible Mediterranean Fans 

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Nice silvermeds. Note that the green meds are gone and so is a Brahea in the center island. Appears to be two young Sabal Uresana on the left hill. This is a home owner that may have its roots in palms from old Yucca Do Nursery.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

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This neighborhood has an incredible amount of mature Sabal Mexicana. Didn't;t get pics of all of them but tried to find on google maps 

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Lots of discussion about Brownsville and South Padre, but southernmost Hidalgo county further inland fared ok too

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Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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Just now, Xenon said:

Lots of discussion about Brownsville and South Padre, but southernmost Hidalgo county further inland fared ok too

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Looks good lol can’t wait till I’m living there 

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Example of thin Robusta like hybrid in New Braunfels TX. There’s quite a few left like these around. Can’t really see trunk due to other trees but it’s fairly thin. 

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More thin Washingtonia hybrids New Braunfels TX. These ones are really tall and attractive  

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On 7/5/2022 at 1:16 PM, Xenon said:

Some gifs of I-45/Beltway 8 in Houston...footage is old (2+ months ago)

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Do y'all remember the giant eucalyptus trees that used to be there? They were fun to look at.  I assume they're not there anymore based on this video

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1 minute ago, KsLouisiana said:

Do y'all remember the giant eucalyptus trees that used to be there? They were fun to look at.  I assume they're not there anymore based on this video

I think they all died I don’t see any anywhere now.

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15 minutes ago, KsLouisiana said:

Do y'all remember the giant eucalyptus trees that used to be there? They were fun to look at.  I assume they're not there anymore based on this video

 

15 minutes ago, KsLouisiana said:

Do y'all remember the giant eucalyptus trees that used to be there? They were fun to look at.  I assume they're not there anymore based on this video

Sure do, they made it as tall as the overpass, that is impressive height. All smoked. Sometimes they come back from the lower part of the trunk, but I assume they just cut them to the ground.

 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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1 minute ago, Collectorpalms said:

 

Sure do, they made it as tall as the overpass, that is impressive height. All smoked. Sometimes they come back from the lower part of the trunk, but I assume they just cut them to the ground.

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They were really tall.  Wow. Don't be surprised if they come back fast. They farm eucalyptus here in a few places around Lake Charles and they came back after that freeze and are about 20 ish feet tall now 

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4 minutes ago, KsLouisiana said:

They were really tall.  Wow. Don't be surprised if they come back fast. They farm eucalyptus here in a few places around Lake Charles and they came back after that freeze and are about 20 ish feet tall now 

I grew them in zone 8b, they would come back from 17-19,  but 15 they were killed, and did not comeback. This area got to 15. So maybe?

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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1 hour ago, Cade said:

Impressive Monstera  survived (15°) in 2021 -growing up a live oak tree in Houston TX -river oaks zone 9B

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That’s impressive, I have never heard a monstera surviving 15f. Is the exact location visible on streetview?

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3 minutes ago, Axel Amsterdam said:

That’s impressive, I have never heard a monstera surviving 15f. Is the exact location visible on streetview?

There are multiple survivors in San Antonio and Austin . This is definitely the largest one I’ve ever seen even in Texas lol . 

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2 hours ago, Cade said:

Impressive Monstera  survived (15°) in 2021 -growing up a live oak tree in Houston TX -river oaks zone 9B

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That photo is old, from the mid 2010s. That thing did not survive 15F without being frozen to the ground. That area did not see a major freeze (<24Fish) for almost 20 years and not below ~28F from 1997-2009. 

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Most (maybe 2/3rds) of the Eucalypts out towards IAH survived and have regrown from the base. Many others around Houston were completely removed before they could regrow (e.g. at the Chevron at Wesleyan and 69).

There were a few established Monstera that I saw around Myerland/Bellaire, but none survived the freeze. Maybe the most interesting things I've seen come back in my neighbourhood are this giant clump of pothos (used to be much larger), a Zamia furfuracea which was completely defoliated, and several Nephrolepis biserrata. 

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Southside San Antonio...1 of 4 Livistona chinensis plantings that survived the freeze and recovered nicely...

 

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

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What happened to this hybrid Washingtonia. It had seemingly completely recovered in the past almost 2 years. 2 weeks ago it had big healthy fronds, and then for no apparent reason it just snapped in half a like 2 days ago. Nearly 2 years after freeze and after appearing to make a complete recovery. 

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The thread that just won't quit...

Some shots of 2021 Freeze survivors in San Antonio 22 months post-freeze event.  These janks are looking tight!

Butia sp. (JBSA - Lackland AFB)

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Sabal mexicana (JBSA - Lackland AFB)

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Washingtonia sp. (JBSA - Lackland AFB)

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Sabal mexicana (there are six truly monstrous Sabal mexicana in this King William District park)

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

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Life continues to gradually get back to normal after almost two years you can’t really tell a freeze happened of extreme extent ….. & No this is a new foxtail planted in march of 2021 Galveston TX .

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Here are two mule palms that also survived at moody gardens- I have a picture of a third one I saw it’s down the street but has horrible trunk rot .

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A nice looking Chamaerops humilis clump in a neighborhood off I-10 West in San Antonio. Only 3 of 12 trunked specimens in the clump didn't make it.

 

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

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Absolute beast sabal Mexicanas in Fort Worth near TCU.

January 2021 pic Vs. November 2021 pic.... Hardly a change. 

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On 12/16/2022 at 3:58 PM, GoatLockerGuns said:

A nice looking Chamaerops humilis clump in a neighborhood off I-10 West in San Antonio. Only 3 of 12 trunked specimens in the clump didn't make it.

 

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Those skirts actually look pretty good

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I don't understand why Sabals aren't planted more in Texas. They look amazing and seem to do very well here. 

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