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Queen Palm Cold Damage 5 days later?


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We had a low of 22-23 on Christmas night, the fronds went 100% exposed while the bud and down was protected. Out of the three, only one seems to be having minor damage. The backyard Queen is so far showing what could be cold damage on the very top of the fronds, not the leaf tips, but jut the top of the fronds in general. It looks strange to me and has just started appearing a couple of days ago. I got some pics this morning, but the lighting was not great, so i will try to get more tomorrow morning and post them. This Queen put on the most robust growth this summer, having put out at least 5-6 new fronds, also fattening up quite a bit as well. 

I also noticed the Livistona chinensis in the neighborhood is showing some burn, both of them are, although the one at the lowest point of the neighborhood shows the worst. I am generally at the highest point in the neighborhood, so maybe this is an advantage?

Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chamaedorea microspadix1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis2 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 34

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Palms can take a while to show damage.  For my cold hardy palms it can be March-May before you see spear damage/fungus

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There have been 8 queens cut down on my culdesac this year with another 2 on their way out.  These were on a bunch of different properties, but all of the different tree guys said that the trees died due to trunk damage caused by a 20 degree freeze in 2018.  The crowns still looked relatively healthy, but the trunks were just crumbling.

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Pics as promised. The ones below present the worst look, then an overall shot of the palm. 

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Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chamaedorea microspadix1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis2 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 34

Posted (edited)

Yeah that's probably frost damage, but overall it looks fine. A leaflet or two that got damaged is of little consequence for a queen palm.

 

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31 minutes ago, Laaz said:

Frost damage.

 

22 minutes ago, Dartolution said:

Yeah that's probably frost damage, but overall it looks fine. A leaflet or two that got damaged is of little consequence for a queen palm.

 

Thanks for letting me know what was wrong! It seems to still be getting more yellow as time goes on, but with its fast growth rate, damaged fronds should probably be gone or at least lower fronds by August or September.

Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chamaedorea microspadix1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis2 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 34

Posted

I didn't realize queens get much frost damage. Since the fronds are hardy to the mid to even low 20's, I though they could take frost fine. I have a little one in a pot in the backyard that has seen heavy frost multiple nights here in NW FL with no damage.

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1 minute ago, Matthew92 said:

I didn't realize queens get much frost damage. Since the fronds are hardy to the mid to even low 20's, I though they could take frost fine. I have a little one in a pot in the backyard that has seen heavy frost multiple nights here in NW FL with no damage.

Every other frost hasnt really affected any of them until Christmas night. Temps got down to about 22F that night with heavy frost. My dancy tangerine's whole top would have been toasted if i didnt protect it. The temps could have gotten colder, but thankfully it didnt.

Palms - 1 Bismarckia nobilis, 2 Butia odorataBxJ1 BxJxBxS1 BxSChamaerops humilis1 Chamaedorea microspadix1 Hyophorbe verschaffeltiiLivistona chinensis1 Livistona nitida, 1 Phoenix canariensis2 Phoenix roebeleniiRavenea rivularis1 Rhapis excelsa1 Sabal bermudanaSabal palmetto4 Syagrus romanzoffianaTrachycarpus fortunei4 Washingtonia robusta
Total: 34

Posted

We dropped to 24F Christmas night, no damage to my queens at all.

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3 minutes ago, JLM said:

Every other frost hasnt really affected any of them until Christmas night. Temps got down to about 22F that night with heavy frost. My dancy tangerine's whole top would have been toasted if i didnt protect it. The temps could have gotten colder, but thankfully it didnt.

Sorry I should have specified. It's been out in the open yard in the elements for all our other freezes (upper 20's multiple times) and frosty nights this winter. But on that coldest morning, I woke up a little before 5am and pulled it inside the house. It was around 23-25 degrees outside and the pot had already frozen solid. I'm not sure if that helped at all. I also pulled it inside the next night (around 26 degrees). Only change I've noticed is an overall more light green/green-yellow color on a few of the leaflets. But it seems to be fine otherwise.

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