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Learning To Appreciate Fan Palms

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I have voiced my preference for pinnate palms many times, but maybe lack of in the flesh exposure to fan palms may be to blame.  Images really can't do justice to many of the fan palms I saw at Kew.  Some of them I would definitely describe as magnificent.

Below is a selection, also any ID's would be appreciated.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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I was quite surprised that this palm had no trunk, maybe a non-trunking species, maybe still too small, I don't know.

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Very unusual looking tree.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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Looking up into the light.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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Another trunkless plant.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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Last one, plenty of trunk on this one, albeit well hidden.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

Aren't they labelled there ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

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Probably over 95% were labelled, but I can't remember what they were and wasn't sensible enough to write them down.  At least it's a good excuse to go again to ID any pictures that no-one can help me with.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

Dear NepFolis,  :)

Love fan palms and the pictures are very nice as usual !

but where is this location and is it a greenhouse where these plants are preserved and what is the fate of these palms when they touch the top glass structures ?

because i remember that in this very same location a huge CIDP was felled as it touched the roof glass_Am I Right in my observation ?

Great work !

love conquers all..

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Ah, Neo!

You have seen the light, as the Mahatma might have said.

There is beauty in all palms . . . . .

dave

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Corey,

Nice pics!  Here's my best guesses at ID's

1. Bismarckia nobilis

2. Sabal sp.

3. ?? maybe not a palm...

4. Licuala grandis

5. Pritchardia sp.

6. Pritchardia sp.

7. Kerriodoxa elegans

8. ?? maybe Thrinax sp.

9. Washingtonia

Jack Sayers

East Los Angeles

growing cold tolerant palms halfway between the equator and the arctic circle...

Yeah, what Jack said.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Sometimes I would write down the names of palms as I took pictures and later wouldn't be able to find the paper  I wrote on.  Now, when palms are labeled, I take a picture of the label before taking a picture of the palm. I have two digital cards that hold about 150 pictures each - remember when you only had 24 exposures on a roll of film and half the pictures didn't come out well. How did we get by with so few pictures?

Kathryn

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Thanks Jack, I'll use those for now, as you are rarely wrong.  I'm surprised no.3 is not a palm, I don't suppose anyone has ideas what it may be.

I have 3x 512mb SD cards, but because I was using the camera in simple mode (point & click), it only saved as JPEG, so I didn't even fill one card, despite taking just under 200 pics.

Kris, yes the pictures are from the Palm House and the Temperate House at Kew Gardens in London.  Whilst they have had to remove some palms in the past, they always do their best to keep anything that is out of the ordinary.  As mentioned on another thread they transplanted their Jubaea when it weighed 54tons, using 4 cranes.  It's not even a rare palm, but had the distinction of being the world's tallest indoor palm.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

Looks like Carludovica palmata, "Panama Hat Palm".

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

What the sammich said, but 3 is not a palm. Yet again, it is the Panama Hat "Palm" Carludovica palmata .

Greta pics.

Zac

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

very nice.

No one cares about your current yard temperature 🙃

what is that tree in picture four, i love it

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Thankls Bo and Zac, I recall seeing that name and thinking, I've not had of that palm genus, I guess that would explain why.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

Forgot to say, great pictures!! Kew is a wonderful place.

Leilani Estates, 25 mls/40 km south of Hilo, Big Island of Hawai'i. Elevation 880 ft/270 m. Average rainfall 140 inches/3550 mm

 

elHoagie did a great job.  #1 is definitely Bismarkia--being a rather green youngster, it didn't have quite the visual impact you'd expect.  Someone familiar only with this one, might be kind of startled seeing a vigorous blue outdoor specimen.

By the way, the label for the mighty Jubaea in the Temperate House mentioned that it was grown from seed at Kew.  Germinated 1846, moved to the center of the house much later, and still going strong!

Fla. climate center: 100-119 days>85 F
USDA 1990 hardiness zone 9B
Current USDA hardiness zone 10a
4 km inland from Indian River; 27º N (equivalent to Brisbane)

Central Orlando's urban heat island may be warmer than us

post 4, second pic, is that a Coccothrinax?

Larry Shone in wet and sunny north-east England!  Zone9 ish

Tie two fish together and though they have two tails they cannot swim <>< ><>

I think it looks kinda like an understory Livistona chinensis to me. The second one in post 4.

Zac

Zac  

Living to get back to Mexico

International Palm Society member since 2007

http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery

What I do to remember the names of palms I have taken pictures of is after I take the picture I will take a picture of the name plate. I have a digital camera that I can take endless pictures with. Nice shots by the way.

Mike Hegger

Northwest Clairemont

San Diego, California

4 miles from coast

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A wide angle lens would have been nice.  The biggest problem I found with taking pictures there was insufficient space to move far enough away to get everything I wanted in the frame.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

Corey, you must immediately go back there and label those pics :)

I'm not much at identification, but I would guess #1 to be a green bizzy, and #3 looks very much like a carludovica I once saw.  Was nice to see others thought that's what it might be.  Great to see a licuala grandis of a good height - they just get better as they grow.

remember when you only had 24 exposures on a roll of film and half the pictures didn't come out well.
 Remember?  Kathryn, that's all I still have - except I get 36 pix to a roll, knowing only a few shots will be "keepers." :D

St. Pete

Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10

Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good

Like you Corey , I use to lothe fan palms probably due to the reason of there are so many of those god damn Washies around Perth and that's about all you ever see.

It wasn't untill I was given a Pritchardia a few years ago and lothing fan palms at the time, I stuffed it in a corner of the garden where you couldn't see it.

How I regret it now, I love fan palms and wish I'd planted it as a centre piece in the front yard.

I still hate those god damn Washies though..36_1_28.gif

Made the move to Mandurah - West Aust

Kamipalms,
Growing for the future


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Here the only thing I tended to see were Trachy's usually fortunei, less often wagnerius and very occasionally one of the others from the genus.  Whilst I don't think they look too bad as small palms, all of the specimen sized plants I have seen in public plantings have been very intidy with hardly any crown and it was very off-putting.  Seeing the Kerriodoxas and Pritchardias amongst others at Kew has changed my perpective somewhat, but unfortunately my climate and lack of space would only allow me to grow the fan palms that I am not so keen on.

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Corey Lucas-Divers

Dorset, UK

Ave Jul High 72F/22C (91F/33C Max)

Ave Jul Low 52F/11C (45F/7C Min)

Ave Jan High 46F/8C (59F/15C Max)

Ave Jan Low 34F/1C (21F/-6C Min)

Ave Rain 736mm pa

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