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Top 5 fastest growers

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@Fusca, Thanks Jon! It's actually my one of my oldest Wednesday! She's the ringleader. She a bad influence on the others lol! 

I finally got a Patric Shafter Mule ( Yatay xQueen). I put it in the ground this spring.  It's doing really well, 2 new leaves. I'm hoping it'll rise through the ranks & eventually to atleast be in the top 5! 

Great top 5 picks! :greenthumb: are you going to try another Livistona Nitida?

Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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Jubaea is probably my fastest. 

(Bigger Jubaea) First photo 2020, second photo 2021.

(Smaller Jubaea) Third photo 2020, fourth photo 2021

Slowest is T. princeps.

 

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@Fusca, Thanks Jon! It's actually my one of my oldest Wednesday! She's the ringleader. She a bad influence on the others lol! 

I finally got a Patric Shafter Mule ( Yatay xQueen). I put it in the ground this spring.  It's doing really well, 2 new leaves. I'm hoping it'll rise through the ranks & eventually to atleast be in the top 5! 

Great top 5 picks! :greenthumb: are you going to try another Livistona Nitida?

Ha ha, I should have known it was Wednesday!  The yatay mule will be a beauty for sure!  I do hope to try the nitida again if I can find one.  I took some pics today but not all turned out well:

#1 x Butyagrus.  This one was trunk-cut back to 4" above the ground back in April and back to around 6' overall height now.

 

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#2 Copernicia alba - didn't skip a beat after protection.

 

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#3 Butia odorata - nearly completely defoliated but coming back nicely.

 

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#4 Chamaerops humilis - trunk-cut and lost one large sucker

 

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#5 Livistona chinensis - trunk-cut

 

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And a few honorable mention palms - Sabal guatemalensis and uresana not at all fast but pushing huge fans.  And bizzy starting to move faster with the heat showing off some nice color!

 

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On 8/21/2021 at 9:11 PM, Swolte said:

Interesting to revisit this thread!

Just checked my previous response and I had Jubutiagrus, T Fortunei, and the W Robusta as the winners. 

The winterstorm surely did a big number of those. The hybrids have been slow to recover. I am counting 4 large fronds on my big one. The Fortunei, like most Trachy's in Texas, had struggled. Growth is good now but its not a big winner this year. The Robusta, which was cut to the spear, initially pushed a few dwarf fronds and is only now getting back into the race. Too little too late!

Anyway, here are the new winners!

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(See pics below. I just took m out in the yard wearing my headlights). 
1) W. Filifera - Surely faster than the Robusta now. It's pushing huge leaves rapidly. A joy to watch. Was cut to a single spear last winter.
2) L. Nitida - Dang, this one surely lives up to its reputation. Protected without a heat source when it hit 3F. It was rather small so I didn't cut it. Though older fronds took damage, it has noticeably gained in size. Reaching for the skies with lots of new fronds.   
3) P. Canariensis - You wouldn't say it but this one was cut to one spear only last winter. A beetle slowed it down but it has been picking up speed again this month. 
4) T. Acanthocoma - I have a small temporary path running there and recently noticed I am getting pinched by the stiff fronds. This one is getting wider and wider! Similar to Nitida, it was still small last year so I didn't cut it down for the winterstorm. Protected without a heat source (some straw and blankets in an exposed spot). The leaves are getting very large and its constantly pushing fronds.   
5) B. Odorata - Wasc ut to the spear and look at it now!

 

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I go out observing my palms/cycads at night with a flashlight as well! Or to water from time to time. My neighbors probably think I'm on drugs or something :floor: what a bunch of weirdos we are lol!

Your Nitida looks great! I like that long stretched look yours has. I feel like is currently doing this & probably by next year (hopefully) have that same look as yours.

Beautiful Acanthocoma! I have a double Trithrinax Acanthocoma seedling I may try in a year or 2. I've had big ones planted in the past but lost them to my winters. I'm in a warmer area now so I want to try this species again. 

Everything bounced back &  looks really good :greenthumb: 

 

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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My fastest grower is a palm I bought as Trachycarpus Fortunei ‘Winsan’. If it’s really Winsan or not I have no idea. When I planted it in 2016 it was around 2.5 feet tall, now it’s around 17.5 feet. I usually get about 2.5 feet of trunk each season and around 15-17 new fronds. Here’s some pictures from August 2016 to August 2021. 

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On 8/22/2021 at 6:11 AM, GregVirginia7 said:

Zone 7 here so very limited but my Trachy is a rocket...

In ground 2014:

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Today...about 8 feet of trunk:

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It’s been a real pleasure watching it ride through winter and keep on growing...

Chamaerops in ground 2014:

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Chamaerops now...about 2 feet of trunk:

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Not a rocket but definitely a great contender...

 

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Beautiful! I definitely can appreciate a well grown trachy. What's the Sabal below it, Brazoria?

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Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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On 8/22/2021 at 3:10 PM, Will said:

Trachycarpus fortunei is also the fastest one for me.  Also don´t have many options. It´s definetly growing faster than my Chamaerops humilis. 

The other Trachy doesn´t grow that fast, not sure why. 

Chamaerops on the left still in a pot and the 2 Trachys in 2016.

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Yup!  My Chamaerops Humilis puts out a ton of leaves but I never noticed much growth, maybe 2-3" of trunk a year?! 

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@Fallen Munk, nice growth on your Jubaea's!  :greenthumb:

I've having the same experience as you with my Princeps. I think somethings wrong with mine! I Hope a gopher didn't get to its roots :bemused:

 

@Chris Wilson, Geez man! That's remarkable growth! I've seen your post of it before but it still amazes me that it achieved that size in 5 years! Bravo :greenthumb:

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@Fusca, That Copernicia Alba, Wow! I need 1 in my life :D. You about won me over with it until you posted the Sabals,  you know I'm a sucker for Sabals Jon :floor: especially a Uresana & Guatemalensis lol! My Guatemalensis is chugging along. Planted it in Spring & as soon as I put it in the ground it took off! I can't wait until mines your size :greenthumb:

 

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Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@Fusca, That Copernicia Alba, Wow! I need 1 in my life :D. You about won me over with it until you posted the Sabals,  you know I'm a sucker for Sabals Jon :floor: especially a Uresana & Guatemalensis lol! My Guatemalensis is chugging along. Planted it in Spring & as soon as I put it in the ground it took off! I can't wait until mines your size :greenthumb:

You were smart to plant it in the ground early.  Mine stayed in a pot for 5 years while I moved around and it was still strap-leafed when I finally got it in the ground.  That alba is one of my favorites!  Hard to imagine but below is a photo of it in March 2018!  I forgot to ask you if your prunifera is a blue one or a green one.  The prunifera I lost in February was a green one but I bought a nice blue one from @Joe palma - thanks Joe!  

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My fastest grower is a palm I bought as Trachycarpus Fortunei ‘Winsan’. If it’s really Winsan or not I have no idea. When I planted it in 2016 it was around 2.5 feet tall, now it’s around 17.5 feet. I usually get about 2.5 feet of trunk each season and around 15-17 new fronds. Here’s some pictures from August 2016 to August 2021. 

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Wow that´s a fast one. Hopefully mine is also gonna exploed in growth soon

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Beautiful! I definitely can appreciate a well grown trachy. What's the Sabal below it, Brazoria?

Yes, Brazoria...really has taken off this year...been in ground since 2015...I’ve protected it quite a bit In winter but want to pull back on that a little...barring any arctic events...but here it is below along with small incandescent lights for a little heat...I think they did pretty good in the historic Texas freeze so now that it is really well established, I’ll try to treat it more like a cold hardy palm but I can see it now, I’ll be throwing all kinds of stuff around it this winter...LOL...

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On 8/24/2021 at 7:07 AM, Fusca said:

You were smart to plant it in the ground early.  Mine stayed in a pot for 5 years while I moved around and it was still strap-leafed when I finally got it in the ground.  That alba is one of my favorites!  Hard to imagine but below is a photo of it in March 2018!  I forgot to ask you if your prunifera is a blue one or a green one.  The prunifera I lost in February was a green one but I bought a nice blue one from @Joe palma - thanks Joe!  

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My Prunifera is the blue one as well.

Holy cow that fast! Atleast to me, not sure how fast these typically grow but I'd be really happy to have an Alba your current size from what it was in 2018 :D

 

 

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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On 8/23/2021 at 8:39 PM, Jubaea_James760 said:

I've having the same experience as you with my Princeps. I think somethings wrong with mine! I Hope a gopher didn't get to its roots :bemused:

 

Probably not.  I hear they are very slow to establish especially if they get shipped bare root.  I have two.  One is getting its second leaf for the season and the other is still pushing the same spear it had when it arrived last October.  I'm hoping next year they are really going to take off.  I have a few hundred princeps seeds coming from China after harvest in December so I'm thinking that they might grow faster than ones shipped bare root.

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Probably not.  I hear they are very slow to establish especially if they get shipped bare root.  I have two.  One is getting its second leaf for the season and the other is still pushing the same spear it had when it arrived last October.  I'm hoping next year they are really going to take off.  I have a few hundred princeps seeds coming from China after harvest in December so I'm thinking that they might grow faster than ones shipped bare root.

I’ve had mine for years they are mega slow. 2 or 3 years in pots with very slow growth. Been in the ground close to 1.5 years and still slow but gradually improving. I think the largest one is working on frond 3 and 4 of the year now. It’s actually pushing 2 spears at once finally. Overall height is less than 8”. 

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My fastest grower is a palm I bought as Trachycarpus Fortunei ‘Winsan’. If it’s really Winsan or not I have no idea. When I planted it in 2016 it was around 2.5 feet tall, now it’s around 17.5 feet. I usually get about 2.5 feet of trunk each season and around 15-17 new fronds. Here’s some pictures from August 2016 to August 2021. 

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Definitely one of the prettiest trachies I've seen, and a speed demon to boot!

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This Washingtonia was transplanted from the pot into the ground in the front yard this spring, 5 months ago, and it's undeniably faster than any other plant in our garden is!

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3 year update on my washingtonia robusta and two of the mules. Still proving to be some of my fastest. 

Washy is April 2019 to October 2022

Mules are August 2019 to August 2022

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22 hours ago, DAVEinMB said:

3 year update on my washingtonia robusta and two of the mules. Still proving to be some of my fastest. 

Washy is April 2019 to October 2022

Mules are August 2019 to August 2022

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You need bigger planters lol 😝 

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You need bigger planters lol 😝 

Lol right! I got a long term fix figured out without having to move them.  Just can't ever seem to find the time or money 😂

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3 year update on my washingtonia robusta and two of the mules. Still proving to be some of my fastest. 

Washy is April 2019 to October 2022

Mules are August 2019 to August 2022

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You're doing something right Dave!  Pretty soon you'll be looking at a telephone pole with the growth on that Washy!

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21 minutes ago, Fusca said:

You're doing something right Dave!  Pretty soon you'll be looking at a telephone pole with the growth on that Washy!

Soooooo much fertilizer lol

Yea I'm stoked I didn't give up on it. The nursery had so many die on them from that shipment they sent the whole thing back. 

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Since moving last March I've noticed continued fast growth from my Livistona nitida here in Rio Hondo.  This one was a strap-leafer planted 3 years ago.  Not quite as fast as the one I had in San Antonio but it wasn't watered much before I got here.

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@MSX, that's impressive growth! Washingtonia's are rockets if given basic necessity. I love them!

 

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@DAVEinMB, holy moly those mules exploded! Unbelievable growth! I'd be happy if i get half that growth on my mule in 3 years. 👍

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@Fusca, looking good Jon! Nitida & Decora seem to be doing the best for me here. I want to put an Alfredii in the ground next spring. We'll see how that one does gor me. Do you have any Alfredii in the ground?

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@Fusca, looking good Jon! Nitida & Decora seem to be doing the best for me here. I want to put an Alfredii in the ground next spring. We'll see how that one does gor me. Do you have any Alfredii in the ground?

Thanks James!  I had an alfredii in the ground here but Palmageddon took it out (22°F).  I replaced it with a Floribunda seedling last year and hope it's big enough to plant in the spring.  :) Meanwhile I have a not-so-cold-hardy Roystonia regia that's growing pretty fast.

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Bumping these thread. 

#1 Trithrinax Campestris 

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Wow your campestris looks amazing! :greenthumb:

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Since moving last March I've noticed continued fast growth from my Livistona nitida here in Rio Hondo.  This one was a strap-leafer planted 3 years ago.  Not quite as fast as the one I had in San Antonio but it wasn't watered much before I got here.

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Here's a 6 month update on my Livistona nitida.  Recent rains have really got it moving as it's overall height is 6'+ now.

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9 hours ago, fr8train said:

Wow your campestris looks amazing! :greenthumb:

Thank you! 😁

Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

Elevation; about 3600 ft.

Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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@Fusca, wow Jon It's really grown! Crazy in just 6 months how big it's gotten. You should do another 6 month update 😁

Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b

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Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106

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