CIDP planted in Washington state

[Love them palms]

CIDP in my backyard facing south in Mukilteo wa zone 8b close to the house 

Edited June 7, 2020 by Love them palms

[Umbrae]

awful close to the house 

[Love them palms]

 you guys really need to understand growing palms in the PNW... 1st...they do not grow as fast, 2nd can burn back quite easy here. 3rd need protection. We do not have the heat to push them. See a 20 years CIDP in Vancouver, Canada. The soils, conditions, climate are all different. I' See video from Banana Joe Clemente...... WE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME CLIMATE AS MOST WHO GROW THESE. EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT.

 

[8B palms]

I was thinking the same, they can have a canopy spread while small of over 15-20 feet.  When I worked ay UW I lived of lake city, there was a house on green lake had a CIPD and Jubaea, although that is 16 years ago (scary how quickly time goes), so I have no idea if they are still doing OK, I am sure the Jubaea is just fine.

[Love them palms]

Just now, 8B palms said:

I was thinking the same, they can have a canopy spread while small of over 15-20 feet.  When I worked ay UW I lived of lake city, there was a house on green lake had a CIPD and Jubaea, although that is 16 years ago (scary how quickly time goes), so I have no idea if they are still doing OK, I am sure the Jubaea is just fine.

As long as the CIDP had good protection it should be doing fine.I imagine the Jubaea is still alive.they are tough guys

[8B palms]

If I recall the 2 palm each anchored the respective corners of the yard so probably 40 feet from the house, not sure if green lake could prove a moderating effect for any cold, it is not very big, but sometimes 1-2oF can make all the difference.  Might have to try a google map search to see if I can find them. maybe other Seattle natives might know if they are still doing ok.

[Love them palms]

I'm sure you could find them some way if they are still there

[Chester B]

This CIDP is planted in Silverton, OR at a nursery.  The fronds get tied up and the whole thing is wrapped each winter.  I'm pretty sure they don't provide supplemental heat but I could be mistaken.  About 50' away are three big Palmettos that receive no protection.

 

 

[Love them palms]

12 minutes ago, Chester B said:

This CIDP is planted in Silverton, OR at a nursery.  The fronds get tied up and the whole thing is wrapped each winter.  I'm pretty sure they don't provide supplemental heat but I could be mistaken.  About 50' away are three big Palmettos that receive no protection.

 

 

The Idea is it is planted close to the south facing wall to receive heat and drape over a frost protection sheet from the bay window and the gutter. as it gets bigger during winter. It should lean away from the house as it gets older. I hope it looks like that but I may be too old of fart to care..growing a palmetto, Riverside and minor as well.nice looking Canary. Hope mine looks that good. 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Love them palms

[Umbrae]

PNW, or anywhere else on the globe , it's too close , but as you said eventually it's someone else's problem down the line , enjoy 

[Love them palms]

15 minutes ago, Umbrae said:

PNW, or anywhere else on the globe , it's too close , but as you said eventually it's someone else's problem down the line , enjoy 

If it starts being a problem I will have it moved further out maybe climate change will help me out a little.so close to 9a now 

[Allen]

I'm in the too close camp as well.  I think you should consider moving it now unless your timeframe is less than 3 years.  Zone pushing is difficult and I have the same problem thinking long term on stuff.   But I'm all for pushing palms 1-2 zones outside your zone

[Chester B]

CIDP's grow down along the southern Oregon coast so we're just outside the limit.  They get more than double the rainfall we do but their coldest three months have average lows around 43F where we are at 37F.  So that 5F change makes all the difference.

Where I live we are classified zone 8B, with some inner city areas at 9A.  Most winters are quite mild, I think we haven't gone below 25F in 3 years but once in a while you old man winter will kick your teeth in.  4 years back we recorded 18F and almost 3 days in a row below freezing, so it's not too hard to protect small or medium palms for that rare occurrence.  

I have not had any problems with zone 9 plants so far.  Every year black elephant ears and Rex begonias come back for me, and I do have a lime tree, tasmanian tree fern and a few zone 9 palms that I have never protected.  I consider those as splurges - all the plants/trees that form the backbone of my garden are hardy to my zone.

 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Chester B

[Allen]

2 hours ago, Chester B said:

CIDP's grow down along the southern Oregon coast so we're just outside the limit.  They get more than double the rainfall we do but their coldest three months have average lows around 43F where we are at 37F.  So that 5F change makes all the difference.

Where I live we are classified zone 8B, with some inner city areas at 9A.  Most winters are quite mild, I think we haven't gone below 25F in 3 years but once in a while you old man winter will kick your teeth in.  4 years back we recorded 18F and almost 3 days in a row below freezing, so it's not too hard to protect small or medium palms for that rare occurrence.  

I have not had any problems with zone 9 plants so far.  Every year black elephant ears and Rex begonias come back for me, and I do have a lime tree, tasmanian tree fern and a few zone 9 palms that I have never protected.  I consider those as splurges - all the plants/trees that form the backbone of my garden are hardy to my zone.

 

Black elephant ears come back for me even after 0F.  I have a variety of EE and they all come back.  All I do is a very mild mulch 2" in winter.

[Love them palms]

3 hours ago, Chester B said:

CIDP's grow down along the southern Oregon coast so we're just outside the limit.  They get more than double the rainfall we do but their coldest three months have average lows around 43F where we are at 37F.  So that 5F change makes all the difference.

Where I live we are classified zone 8B, with some inner city areas at 9A.  Most winters are quite mild, I think we haven't gone below 25F in 3 years but once in a while you old man winter will kick your teeth in.  4 years back we recorded 18F and almost 3 days in a row below freezing, so it's not too hard to protect small or medium palms for that rare occurrence.  

I have not had any problems with zone 9 plants so far.  Every year black elephant ears and Rex begonias come back for me, and I do have a lime tree, tasmanian tree fern and a few zone 9 palms that I have never protected.  I consider those as splurges - all the plants/trees that form the backbone of my garden are hardy to my zone.

 

My zone goes back and forth zone 8B to 9A every winter.this last winter was a 9A and 2018/2019 was decent as well then Feb 2019 hit with a weeks worth of snow.