Hello haven't posted for awhile. Just thought I show off my palm paradise in the works .got a little bit off an assortment going. Trachycarpus fortunei and nova,s, med palms, 1 sago. 3 super mule. 1 butia x jubaea,1 jubaea x yatay from patric ,2 jubaea x butia, 1 BJxJ and JxBJ from patric. 1 sabal minor, 2 nice sized Jubaea. Cordyline austrailis, olive trees for wind protection,1 yucca and a couple of hibiscus.and I'm not finished yet lol  I live in Mukilteo wa zone 8b/9A. work is being done by Dave Alvarez if any of you are familiar with him he does great work.

Edited May 16, 20206 yr by Love them palms

Wow, that's a fantastic selection of cold-hardy palms and I will definitely be along for the ride to see how they do. 

I also see your record low is 0F . I'm just curious but what was your lowest last winter? You may have to protect quite a lot of those on the coldest of winter nights. At least while they are still young. Of course they will become hardier with age though. The Sago and Trachy Nova aren't as hardy as people think. My Nova has spear pulled after a low of 22F last year. Just a heads up. But again, the older they are the less likely this will happen. Even without protection stuff should recover during the growing season. 

7 minutes ago, UK_Palms said:

Wow, that's a fantastic selection of cold-hardy palms and I will definitely be along for the ride to see how they do. 

I also see your record low is 0F . I'm just curious but what was your lowest last winter? You may have to protect quite a lot of those on the coldest of winter nights. At least while they are still young. Of course they will become hardier with age though. The Sago and Trachy Nova aren't as hardy as people think. My Nova has spear pulled after a low of 22F last year. Just a heads up. But again, the older they are the less likely this will happen. Even without protection stuff should recover during the growing season. 

he said he's in 8b/9a so if that's the case he's fine.  Dave's video's look awesome so I'm sure he's in good hands.  They all look like you're going to have a awesome tropical paradise there.

1 minute ago, UK_Palms said:

Wow, that's a fantastic selection of cold-hardy palms and I will definitely be along for the ride to see how they do. 

I also see your record low is 0F . I'm just curious but what was your lowest last winter? You may have to protect quite a lot of those on the coldest of winter nights. At least while they are still young. Of course they will become hardier with age though. The Sago and Trachy Nova aren't as hardy as people think. My Nova has spear pulled after a low of 22F last year. Just a heads up. But again, the older they are the less likely this will happen. Even without protection stuff should recover during the growing season. 

That record low was quite a long time ago. The lows  in my area during last winter were in the 30,sF.lowest was about 31 F the nova and the 3 way mules went through last winter covered so they are acclimated.the sago will probably have to be covered every winter. My garden is setup as a micro climate with the olive trees as a wind break from the north winds in winter as well as the trachycarpus and meds and cordyline austrailis and yucca protecting the more tender trees that may not be as hardy. since I have lived in this area it's not gotten any colder than 20F and I also live a mile away from the Puget sound so that has its benefits as well 

1 minute ago, Allen said:

he said he's in 8b/9a so if that's the case he's fine.  Dave's video's look awesome so I'm sure he's in good hands.  They all look like you're going to have a awesome tropical paradise there.

I'm in 8b/9a as well but grow plenty of stuff that is marginal, which I would still need to protect during my coldest winters. The record low for his location is 0F as well so he will definitely be having to protect stuff during the coldest winters, just as I have to, although my record low is 10F. Even Trachycarpus Fortunei will take extensive damage at 10F and can die at 5F. Chamaerops Humilis can be defoliated at 15F, as can Sago palms. The reality is that he will have to protect some of this stuff at some point. 

6 minutes ago, Allen said:

he said he's in 8b/9a so if that's the case he's fine.  Dave's video's look awesome so I'm sure he's in good hands.  They all look like you're going to have a awesome tropical paradise there.

Dave is very knowledgeable.I told him to do it as if it was his.gonna be bringing me some cactus to put in the palm area as well

Impressive collection, Lovethempalms! Your neighbors must be very jealous of your jungle. 

2 minutes ago, Love them palms said:

That record low was quite a long time ago. The lows  in my area during last winter were in the 30,sF.lowest was about 31 F the nova and the 3 way mules went through last winter covered so they are acclimated.the sago will probably have to be covered every winter. My garden is setup as a micro climate with the olive trees as a wind break from the north winds in winter as well as the trachycarpus and meds and cordyline austrailis and yucca protecting the more tender trees that may not be as hardy. since I have lived in this area it's not gotten any colder than 20F and I also live a mile away from the Puget sound so that has its benefits as well 

Fair enough. Sounds like you know what you are talking about and are ready to protect if need be. In which case you should have a fantastic looking yard with plenty of big palms in just a few years. I'll certainly keep an eye on this planting.

I'm in a similar situation to you, having recently planted a lot of stuff which I am waiting to take off. I'm always living in fear of polar air masses each winter though. Hopefully the weather is good to you in the coming years and the palms do well for you. Our climates are pretty similar, except for the rainfall totals. 

Just curious, but what is your most prized palm/plant that you have put in? Or the one you are most excited about?

1 minute ago, UK_Palms said:

I'm in 8b/9a as well but grow plenty of stuff that is marginal, which I would still need to protect during my coldest winters. The record low for his location is 0F as well so he will definitely be having to protect stuff during the coldest winters, just as I have to, although my record low is 10F. Even Trachycarpus Fortunei will take extensive damage at 10F and can die at 5F. Chamaerops Humilis can be defoliated at 15F, as can Sago palms. The reality is that he will have to protect some of this stuff at some point. 

Any where in the states under  the same threat for cold winters. But 10F may never come or it might. I do protect if I have to. All my trees will get hardier as they age so protection will hopefully not have to be done

4 minutes ago, UK_Palms said:

Fair enough. Sounds like you know what you are talking about and are ready to protect if need be. In which case you should have a fantastic looking yard with plenty of big palms in just a few years. I'll certainly keep an eye on this planting.

I'm in a similar situation to you, having recently planted a lot of stuff which I am waiting to take off. I'm always living in fear of polar air masses each winter though. Hopefully the weather is good to you in the coming years and the palms do well for you. Our climates are pretty similar, except for the rainfall totals. 

Just curious, but what is your most prized palm/plant that you have put in? Or the one you are most excited about?

My 2 Jubaea are my most favorite. I have learned quite a bit and also read this book Palms through out the world recommended by Dave. It got good info.

Edited May 16, 20206 yr by Love them palms

Just now, Love them palms said:

My 2 Jubaea are my most favorite 

Your Jubaea does look really good to be honest. A strong specimen which should continue to go from strength to strength. It's almost an identical size to mine, which has hardly grown over the past 2 years. Mine is potted though, as our many of my palms, since I am planning to move house soon. 

All the best with the palms pal. 

15 minutes ago, Trustandi said:

Impressive collection, Lovethempalms! Your neighbors must be very jealous of your jungle. 

Alot like it.I have had a couple of negative remarks from neighbors who have said palms don't belong in my area and I should of planted native plants instead. Told them palms were once native here a few thousand years ago so they are native 

10 minutes ago, UK_Palms said:

Your Jubaea does look really good to be honest. A strong specimen which should continue to go from strength to strength. It's almost an identical size to mine, which has hardly grown over the past 2 years. Mine is potted though, as our many of my palms, since I am planning to move house soon. 

All the best with the palms pal. 

I got them bigger cause they are so slow but the grow faster once they develop trunk plus Dave who is doing the planting put them in the area that will receive the longest amount of sun every day.

Thanks for sharing. Great selection of palms and it'll be excited to see how it all fills up! It looks like you had it all planned out and got everything planted on a wishlist right away! Any space left?

 

Perhaps the pictures are deceiving but you have some palms that are going to get awfully big. Some seem pretty tight? Dunno ...

No they are not too tight. Most of the trees are spaced 3-4 feet apart. Some may be a little closer. Dave Alvarez is the one who designed this setup of mine.the guy has known palm trees forever and is my mentor.you can see some of his work on you tube.here are 2 of them 

And 

The guy is a guru when it comes to palms. I bumped into him on Facebook along with Banana Joe Clemente on the palm forums. Believe me I'm in good hands with the trees that were planted 

Edited May 17, 20206 yr by Love them palms

16 hours ago, Swolte said:

Thanks for sharing. Great selection of palms and it'll be excited to see how it all fills up! It looks like you had it all planned out and got everything planted on a wishlist right away! Any space left?

 

Oh yes the is some space left.there is still a section kinda open.I have a sabal Riverside and a trachycarpus takil that are going in that area.gonna be putting in some African ice plants as a ground cover in some of the areas.they are good at sucking up the excess ground water during our rainy season here in the PNW.

55 minutes ago, Love them palms said:

No they are not too tight. Most of the trees are spaced 3-4 feet apart. Some may be a little closer. Dave Alvarez is the one who designed this setup of mine.the guy has known palm trees forever and is my mentor.you can see some of his work on you tube.here are 2 of them 

The guy is a guru when it comes to palms. I bumped into him on Facebook along with Banana Joe Clemente on the palm forums. Believe me I'm in good hands with the trees that were planted 

I'm sure he knows what he's doing for that neck of the woods. Perhaps they just grow smaller up there?  The BxJ's that I have seen are massive palms, 3-4 feet is fine for many palms you has planted. Maybe it's just my taste vs his taste.  

 

This is a BxJ in Augusta, GA it's gotta have a 20' spread.

 

Here is another...  the trunk is pretty close to 3' in diameter, probably more at the base. 

 

 

Dick's BxJ 

Edited May 17, 20206 yr by RJ

He put in more of a jungle look.I took a second look at the spacing and it looks more like 5 ft apart but they do grow slower up here in the Pacific northwest.

2 hours ago, RJ said:

I'm sure he knows what he's doing for that neck of the woods. Perhaps they just grow smaller up there?  The BxJ's that I have seen are massive palms, 3-4 feet is fine for many palms you has planted. Maybe it's just my taste vs his taste.  

 

This is a BxJ in Augusta, GA it's gotta have a 20' spread.

 

Here is another...  the trunk is pretty close to 3' in diameter, probably more at the base. 

 

 

Dick's BxJ 

Oh man they look nice

@RJ Are those all BxJs ? Man you might have me sold on them. I didn't pick one up this time, maybe next. I wonder how old they are ? If I could just a that Jubaea look without turning 80 before it trunks would be nice haha 

9 hours ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

@RJ Are those all BxJs ? Man you might have me sold on them. I didn't pick one up this time, maybe next. I wonder how old they are ? If I could just a that Jubaea look without turning 80 before it trunks would be nice haha 

Yep, the top two are actually the same palm at different angles from Huntington gardens in CA. The 3rd one is from Dick's garden. Patric used that one for many years, he may still I don't know if he still has access to it since Dick passed. Here is another in Orange County CA 

 

 

@Love them palms, sorry didn't mean to hyjack your thread. I'm just pointing out that BxJ is a big palm, although the trunk might not be as large as a pure Jubaea I would say the crown is certainly larger as illustrated here: 

 

 

 

The BxJ is in the background on the left while the Jubaea is on the right 

Thanks for all the pictures @RJ BxJs look like a butia on steroids working out with its father Jubaea =) Beautiful palms for sure 

A little update on the final look

Looking good!  Are all the potted palms just leftovers you're sending me? LOL

Nope they all part of my jungle look.next will be monkeys, tiki bar,a driving strip and casino,s