Padre Island Coconuts

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

I just finished collecting 48 coconuts off the beach at North Padre Island, Texas, from just south of the pier and at Padre Island National Seashore.  If I can get 10 of them to sprout, I will be happy.

[Palmarum]

Spoils of palm hunting. Mission complete.

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

And I just got through watering the Coconut Palm that a couple of friends of mine and I planted last May at Douden Park, North Padre Island, Texas.  It was totally unprotected last winter, but overall, it was a very mild winter, with just 2 Arctic fronts dropping temps to the mid to upper 30'sF on the island.  It was just starting to develop woody trunk at the base when planted last year, but is developing a little more trunk now.  It would look better if we had our normal rainfall, but we are in the midst of a severe drought.  Even a lot of the weeds at the park are dying from the drought.  Hopefully, we will get some good rain soon.

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

I can't upload any more photos for some reason, despite 3 attempts to upload a couple of photos of the palm.

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/25/2020 at 9:15 PM, Palmarum said:

Spoils of palm hunting. Mission complete.

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Yes indeed.

[kinzyjr]

Nice haul!  Nothing like hitting the open road to collect seed from those perfectly grown and battle-tested local specimens.

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/25/2020 at 9:35 PM, kinzyjr said:

Nice haul!  Nothing like hitting the open road to collect seed from those perfectly grown and battle-tested local specimens.

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Yeah, but these are not local.  Coconut Palms are few and far between here in this marginal climate for them, though they have been known to occasionally grow to maturity with a few nuts on them here.  The nuts on the beach here wash up from the Gulf Coast of Mexico, the Bay of Campeche and northern and western side of the Yucatan, with a few probably coming from some yards along the Rio Grande River (both sides of the border).  There are more of them grown in the Rio Grande Valley than here in Corpus Christi, and the ones in the Valley that are adequately watered fruit regularly.  There are some that wash up here that have no algae or barnacles on the husk.  These are the ones that are likely from yards along the river there, as they would likely wash up here on the beach just a few days after falling into the river.  Hence no algae or barnacles on them because they are not in the Gulf of Mexico long enough for algae or barnacles to develop on the husks.  The ones that have a lot of algae and barnacles on them are likely from the Yucatan and spend a month or more floating around in the Gulf before the waves and currents finally bring them to the beach here.

Edited April 26, 2020 by Mr. Coconut Palm

[Fusca]

Nice haul John!  Wish I had gone on a "coconut hunt" with you before I moved here...

[GottmitAlex]

  On 4/26/2020 at 2:31 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Yeah, but these are not local.  

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Yup. Coconuts can float and drift hundreds of miles to their destinations. 

Hence coconut palms near the beach arch toward it in order for their mature fruit to drop into it and to have a fighting chance via the water..

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/26/2020 at 2:52 AM, Fusca said:

Nice haul John!  Wish I had gone on a "coconut hunt" with you before I moved here...

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Thanks.  If you are planning on coming down here sometime and would like to go coconut hunting, or if you just want to see the ones in my yard, let me know.

[Tropicdoc]

  On 4/26/2020 at 3:10 AM, GottmitAlex said:

Yup. Coconuts can float and drift hundreds of miles to their destinations. 

Hence coconut palms near the beach arch toward it in order for their mature fruit to drop into it and to have a fighting chance via the water..

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How do they know where the water is?

[HtownPalms]

Wow! I have never seen a coconut on the beaches of Galveston, but I never looked for them before either. I wonder how far up the Texas coast you could realistically expect to find a coconut or two? Obviously plenty in NPI! 

[Meangreen94z]

A few images of South Padre Island...I know not the North section of the barrier Island ... but..
It would be great to find a 20 acre spread down on the Rio Grande Valley, wish I could start now and enjoy it during retirement....

Edited April 26, 2020 by Meangreen94z

[Meangreen94z]

Sorry, unrelated but I thought I would just post a few random pictures up.....I need to make another trip down there.

[Jeff985]

  On 4/26/2020 at 10:45 PM, HtownPalms said:

Wow! I have never seen a coconut on the beaches of Galveston, but I never looked for them before either. I wonder how far up the Texas coast you could realistically expect to find a coconut or two? Obviously plenty in NPI! 

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I found one on the beach in Galveston a couple weeks ago. It had a hole in it though. 

[Meangreen94z]

That thing looks like it was shot out of a cannon or ran over. Still pretty cool, just about everything washes up on Galveston Island , good and bad...

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/26/2020 at 10:45 PM, HtownPalms said:

Wow! I have never seen a coconut on the beaches of Galveston, but I never looked for them before either. I wonder how far up the Texas coast you could realistically expect to find a coconut or two? Obviously plenty in NPI! 

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Harlan, 

I used to live in Galveston when I first started college at A&M Galveston.  I would occasionally find a few there.  In the spring of 1990, I found a big one washed up at East Beach not too far from the jetty, but it was way back on the beach away from the water.  I figured some kid or somebody found it near the water where it washed up and carried it back to the back part of the beach along way from the water.  Anyway, I picked it up, went to a nursery on the island and got a used black 5 gal. pot, went back to the beach and filled it up with sand and set it in the pot at about a 45 degree angle with the point at which it was attached to the stem angled up.  Then I aer it in the walkway of the 4th floor dorm room where I lived on campus, watered it every day, and a month and a half later it sprouted into a beautiful healthy palm.  When I moved away from Galvestona few years later, I gave it to Moody Gardens.  Moody Gardens used to have 3 Malayan Dwarfs about 10 ft. tall in overall height,  one Green Malayan, and two Golden Malayans planted in a raised bed by the parking lot back in the mid 1990's, but they only lasted about 2 or 3 years, because Galveston is just too chilly in the winter for Coconut Palms to make it there.  Here where I live is the northernmost part of the Texas Coast where they stand a decent chance of surviving.  But yes, we do get a lot more if them washing up here on the beach.  I have also collected coconuts on the beach near Surfside south of Galveston, and on the part of the beach you can drive on at Matagorda Peninsula.

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/26/2020 at 11:00 PM, Meangreen94z said:

A few images of South Padre Island...I know not the North section of the barrier Island ... but..
It would be great to find a 20 acre spread down on the Rio Grande Valley, wish I could start now and enjoy it during retirement....

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Daniel, 

Coconut Palms do great at South Padre Island by Texas standards anyway (the ones that are properly watered in the hot dry months), and throughout the Lower Rio Grande Valley.   They should be used a LOT more there in landscaping, but local nurseries rarely have them, so people are forced to try to sprout one they find 9n the beach, or order them through the mail from Florida, or Hawaii.

[GottmitAlex]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:26 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Daniel, 

Coconut Palms do great at South Padre Island by Texas standards anyway (the ones that are properly watered in the hot dry months), and throughout the Lower Rio Grande Valley.   They should be used a LOT more there in landscaping, but local nurseries rarely have them, so people are forced to try to sprout one they find 9n the beach, or order them through the mail from Florida, or Hawaii.

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John, can one in Texas procure cocos via mail?

I ask because I am under the impression the KGB over there confiscates cocos which arrive by mail. 

[Meangreen94z]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:16 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Harlan, 

I used to live in Galveston when I first started college at A&M Galveston.  I would occasionally find a few there.  In the spring of 1990, I found a big one washed up at East Beach not too far from the jetty, but it was way back on the beach away from the water.  I figured some kid or somebody found it near the water where it washed up and carried it back to the back part of the beach along way from the water.  Anyway, I picked it up, went to a nursery on the island and got a used black 5 gal. pot, went back to the beach and filled it up with sand and set it in the pot at about a 45 degree angle with the point at which it was attached to the stem angled up.  Then I aer it in the walkway of the 4th floor dorm room where I lived on campus, watered it every day, and a month and a half later it sprouted into a beautiful healthy palm.  When I moved away from Galvestona few years later, I gave it to Moody Gardens.  Moody Gardens used to have 3 Malayan Dwarfs about 10 ft. tall in overall height,  one Green Malayan, and two Golden Malayans planted in a raised bed by the parking lot back in the mid 1990's, but they only lasted about 2 or 3 years, because Galveston is just too chilly in the winter for Coconut Palms to make it there.  Here where I live is the northernmost part of the Texas Coast where they stand a decent chance of surviving.  But yes, we do get a lot more if them washing up here on the beach.  I have also collected coconuts on the beach near Surfside south of Galveston, and on the part of the beach you can drive on at Matagorda Peninsula.

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I went to A&M at Galveston about 20 years ago, for 2 years, before moving on. The Island definitely has a unique culture, almost a New Orleans/ Texas half breed. There’s a lot of interesting history to that Island. At one point the richest place in America, then the storm of 1900 hit. I don’t think I would ever move back there though, it’s constantly improving, but plenty of other places on my dream list.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Meangreen94z

[Meangreen94z]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:26 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Daniel, 

Coconut Palms do great at South Padre Island by Texas standards anyway (the ones that are properly watered in the hot dry months), and throughout the Lower Rio Grande Valley.   They should be used a LOT more there in landscaping, but local nurseries rarely have them, so people are forced to try to sprout one they find 9n the beach, or order them through the mail from Florida, or Hawaii.

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Yeah, the climate is near perfect, by Texas standards. If you go a few miles inland it’s dry and hot enough to grow most Xeric plants, but there’s enough access to water to grow Tropicals as well. Winters are mild, records show 32*F is the lowest South Padre Island has seen in the last 30 or so years.

[HtownPalms]

  On 4/26/2020 at 11:25 PM, Jeff985 said:

I found one on the beach in Galveston a couple weeks ago. It had a hole in it though. 

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I will have to keep my eyes peeled for one of these next time I'm on the beach. Even if it isn't able to grow it would be cool to find one.

[HtownPalms]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:16 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Harlan, 

I used to live in Galveston when I first started college at A&M Galveston.  I would occasionally find a few there.  In the spring of 1990, I found a big one washed up at East Beach not too far from the jetty, but it was way back on the beach away from the water.  I figured some kid or somebody found it near the water where it washed up and carried it back to the back part of the beach along way from the water.  Anyway, I picked it up, went to a nursery on the island and got a used black 5 gal. pot, went back to the beach and filled it up with sand and set it in the pot at about a 45 degree angle with the point at which it was attached to the stem angled up.  Then I aer it in the walkway of the 4th floor dorm room where I lived on campus, watered it every day, and a month and a half later it sprouted into a beautiful healthy palm.  When I moved away from Galvestona few years later, I gave it to Moody Gardens.  Moody Gardens used to have 3 Malayan Dwarfs about 10 ft. tall in overall height,  one Green Malayan, and two Golden Malayans planted in a raised bed by the parking lot back in the mid 1990's, but they only lasted about 2 or 3 years, because Galveston is just too chilly in the winter for Coconut Palms to make it there.  Here where I live is the northernmost part of the Texas Coast where they stand a decent chance of surviving.  But yes, we do get a lot more if them washing up here on the beach.  I have also collected coconuts on the beach near Surfside south of Galveston, and on the part of the beach you can drive on at Matagorda Peninsula.

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Pretty cool to know that viable coconuts have been found and grown from the beach in Galveston. Small world, i went to Texas A&M Galveston too! I graduated in 2006 with a degree in Marine Fisheries Management. I think i lived in the same dorm you are describing. 

[HtownPalms]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:47 AM, Meangreen94z said:

I went to A&M at Galveston about 20 years ago, for 2 years, before moving on. The Island definitely has a unique culture, almost a New Orleans/ Texas half breed. There’s a lot of interesting history to that Island. At one point the richest place in America, then the storm of 1900 hit. I don’t think I would ever move back there though, it’s constantly improving, but plenty of other places on my dream list.

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One of the most accurate descriptions of Galveston that i have heard. I agree that if I could live anywhere in the world it wouldn't be Galveston; but it was my favorite place that I have ever lived. 

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/26/2020 at 11:11 PM, Meangreen94z said:

Sorry, unrelated but I thought I would just post a few random pictures up.....I need to make another trip down there.

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I love the Rio Grande Valley.   I would like to have even just 10 acres on the east side of Brownsville and have and ALL ORGANIC little coconut grove there, and organic palm and tropical plant nursery there, and my house on the property too.  The soil is a rich delta soil there.  Unfortunately though, the soil needs to be restored to its natural state from all the many years of conventional chemical based agriculture in the region.

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/26/2020 at 11:25 PM, Jeff985 said:

I found one on the beach in Galveston a couple weeks ago. It had a hole in it though. 

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Jeff,

Did it have a hole in the nut itself, like someone had tapped a hole in one of the eyes?  Or did it just have a hole in the husk?  If it just had a hole in the husk, but the nut inside was intact with some water in it, it could still be viable.  I have sprouted ones before in which the husk looked pretty beat up, but as long as the nut inside is intact and has some water in it when you shake it, they can still sprout into beautiful healthy palms.

John

[Jeff985]

  On 4/27/2020 at 2:31 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Jeff,

Did it have a hole in the nut itself, like someone had tapped a hole in one of the eyes?  Or did it just have a hole in the husk?  If it just had a hole in the husk, but the nut inside was intact with some water in it, it could still be viable.  I have sprouted ones before in which the husk looked pretty beat up, but as long as the nut inside is intact and has some water in it when you shake it, they can still sprout into beautiful healthy palms.

John

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It was empty. I checked. 

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:28 AM, GottmitAlex said:

John, can one in Texas procure cocos via mail?

I ask because I am under the impression the KGB over there confiscates cocos which arrive by mail. 

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Hey Alex,

Officially, no without a special permit from USDA I think.  But unofficially, people do it all the time by ordering sprouted nuts off of ebay, and from other sources they have in Florida that will ship them in the mail to Texas.  Officially, there has been a quarantine on all sprouted coconuts coming out of Florida for about 4 decades.  But people also bring back sprouted nuts they find on vacation in Florida and drive them back in their cars, as well as people buying sprouted nuts at nurseries and Big Box stores and bringing them back with them.  Supposedly though, from what I have been told by a guy working for the Texas Dept. of Ag about 20 years ago, you can have all the nuts you want shipped over here from Florida as long as they haven't sprouted yet.  I think the quarantine is absurd, especially after so long, since Lethal Yellowing has existed in palms in the Rio Grande Valley for quite a while, but it is only a sporadic problem here, and the disease seems to have basically run its course in Florida compared to what it had been back in the 1970's and 1980's.  And there seems to be some strains of the Jamaican Talls that are supposedly highly susceptible to Lethal Yellowing that are immune to the disease, as I have seen healthy robust mature Jamaican Talls in South Florida when on vacation there years ago, and during the two years I lived in South Florida.  Seed nuts should be collected off these palms to grow new healthy Jamaican Talls from.   And the Malayan Dwarfs are more resistant to the disease anyway, and should be allowed to be shipped to South Texas.

John

[Xenon]

Truly bizarre the (almost) complete lack of coconuts in the RGV, especially in southeastern Cameron and southern Hidalgo county where there are unprotected 15+ year old specimens. Royals and foxtails sell like hotcakes. Royals dominate any sort of new development in the McAllen metro and have clearly surpassed queens in popularity to be the #1 pinnate palm.  In some neighborhoods they are almost overplanted.  Even things like bottle palms are several orders of magnitude more common than the elusive coconut. 

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:28 AM, GottmitAlex said:

John, can one in Texas procure cocos via mail?

I ask because I am under the impression the KGB over there confiscates cocos which arrive by mail. 

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Alex,

To further answer your question, it depends on where they come from.  I have had a healthy BIG Hawaiian Tall nut shipped to me in the mail back in the 1980's that sprouted into the most beautiful Coconut Palm I have ever seen.  I had no problem receiving it in the mail.  And I have officially received sprouted Hawaiian Tall nuts that were certified to be shipped to the mainland by the Hawaiian Dept. of Ag that had their certificate in the box with the sprouted nut.  But yes, you are right in some case the American KGB, aka Gestapo (U.S. Customs and Homeland INSECURITY) have been known to confiscate coconuts brought in from other countries.  I met a man at the Botanical Gardens here a few years ago who said he ordered some Indian Tall coconuts from the New Delhi area of India (what I believe to be the most cold hardy variety of Coconut Palm in the world, probably cold hardy down to about 25F or 26F).  Anyway, I forgot if he said it was just the viable ripe seed nuts or actually sprouted nuts that he ordered, but he told me when the box arrived on the West Coast of the U.S., the feds here confiscated the box, tore it open and shipped him the torn up empty box!!!  Land of the Free, Home of the Brave my ass!!!!!  More like LAND OF THE FEE, HOME OF THE SLAVE!!!!!!  Which is one of the MANY reasons I would love to leave and get as FAR AWAY FROM THE U.S.A. AS I COULD GET, if I had the means to do so!!!!!!!

John

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/27/2020 at 12:47 AM, Meangreen94z said:

I went to A&M at Galveston about 20 years ago, for 2 years, before moving on. The Island definitely has a unique culture, almost a New Orleans/ Texas half breed. There’s a lot of interesting history to that Island. At one point the richest place in America, then the storm of 1900 hit. I don’t think I would ever move back there though, it’s constantly improving, but plenty of other places on my dream list.

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Daniel,

Yes, it is an interesting place to live.  But unfortunately, even though it has a Zone 10A climate, it is just too cool in the wintertime for Coconut Palms to live there.  I tried and others have tried too, and it is just too cool for daytime highs and a little too cool for the overnight lows in the winter, even though the island rarely has a freeze.  But just a couple of hundred miles down the coast here where I live, we are just within the marginal range of where Coconut Palms can be grown and them have any chance of survival.  Add to that the fact that I grow everything 100% ORGANIC, it gives me a few degrees of additional cold hardiness for my tropical trees and plants.  When you grow plants 100% ORGANIC, you can actually increase the cold hardiness of them by as much as 2F to 3F, and I have heard that with some species even as much as 5F, which for those of us growing cold sensitive tropicals in a marginal climate for them, that can be the world of difference between success and failure.

John

P.S.  With Climate Change, there is a lot more tropical stuff being grown in Galveston now than there was just 30 years ago, but even so, the temps are still just a few degrees too chilly for Coconut Palms to grow there.  By the way, what was your major when you were at TAMUG?

[Meangreen94z]

  On 4/27/2020 at 3:01 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Daniel,

Yes, it is an interesting place to live.  But unfortunately, even though it has a Zone 10A climate, it is just too cool in the wintertime for Coconut Palms to live there.  I tried and others have tried too, and it is just too cool for daytime highs and a little too cool for the overnight lows in the winter, even though the island rarely has a freeze.  But just a couple of hundred miles down the coast here where I live, we are just within the marginal range of where Coconut Palms can be grown and them have any chance of survival.  Add to that the fact that I grow everything 100% ORGANIC, it gives me a few degrees of additional cold hardiness for my tropical trees and plants.  When you grow plants 100% ORGANIC, you can actually increase the cold hardiness of them by as much as 2F to 3F, and I have heard that with some species even as much as 5F, which for those of us growing cold sensitive tropicals in a marginal climate for them, that can be the world of difference between success and failure.

John

P.S.  With Climate Change, there is a lot more tropical stuff being grown in Galveston now than there was just 30 years ago, but even so, the temps are still just a few degrees too chilly for Coconut Palms to grow there.  By the way, what was your major when you were at TAMUG?

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At that point it was Marine Engineering. 

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/27/2020 at 1:43 AM, HtownPalms said:

Pretty cool to know that viable coconuts have been found and grown from the beach in Galveston. Small world, i went to Texas A&M Galveston too! I graduated in 2006 with a degree in Marine Fisheries Management. I think i lived in the same dorm you are describing. 

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Harlan,

I think there are two reasons you don't find as many nuts washing up in Galveston as you do here.  One, is the currents I don't think take as many there as here, and two, there are SO MANY more people that live on the island there walking the beaches all the time, and that combined with all the tourists and weekend visitors from Houston going down to Galveston all the time, any nuts that do wash up there, get grabbed by someone really quickly if for no other reason than to set it on a shelf as a souvenir when they get home.  I started as a Marine Biology major there, but at the time I found the coconut I was talking about, I was a Maritime Administration major before I finally went up to the main campus and got a degree in Agricultural Development (Phd in UNEMPLOYMENT, LOL!!!).  I lived on what  was the south side of C Dorm at the time which had good direct morning sun which helped the coconut sprout so fast.

John

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/27/2020 at 2:39 AM, Jeff985 said:

It was empty. I checked. 

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Yeah, I find ones like that here too.  It is so frustrating to see one in the distance that looks like a big robust nut to try to sprout, but when I get up to it, and see the other side of it, someone has chopped the husk open and tapped one of the eyes.  Why they would want to drink the rank water out of one that has been floating in the ocean for a month or more, I don't know, but they are still viable to grow when they have been out there floating around all that time.  I guess it's ignorant people who have no clue that it is the green nuts still on the tree that are good for drinking from, NOT the ripe viable nuts for growing.

[GottmitAlex]

  On 4/27/2020 at 2:51 AM, Mr. Coconut Palm said:

Alex,

To further answer your question, it depends on where they come from.  I have had a healthy BIG Hawaiian Tall nut shipped to me in the mail back in the 1980's that sprouted into the most beautiful Coconut Palm I have ever seen.  I had no problem receiving it in the mail.  And I have officially received sprouted Hawaiian Tall nuts that were certified to be shipped to the mainland by the Hawaiian Dept. of Ag that had their certificate in the box with the sprouted nut.  But yes, you are right in some case the American KGB, aka Gestapo (U.S. Customs and Homeland INSECURITY) have been known to confiscate coconuts brought in from other countries.  I met a man at the Botanical Gardens here a few years ago who said he ordered some Indian Tall coconuts from the New Delhi area of India (what I believe to be the most cold hardy variety of Coconut Palm in the world, probably cold hardy down to about 25F or 26F).  Anyway, I forgot if he said it was just the viable ripe seed nuts or actually sprouted nuts that he ordered, but he told me when the box arrived on the West Coast of the U.S., the feds here confiscated the box, tore it open and shipped him the torn up empty box!!!  Land of the Free, Home of the Brave my ass!!!!!  More like LAND OF THE FEE, HOME OF THE SLAVE!!!!!!  Which is one of the MANY reasons I would love to leave and get as FAR AWAY FROM THE U.S.A. AS I COULD GET, if I had the means to do so!!!!!!!

John

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I only referenced the KGB since here in Commiefornia it's worse.  No nuts from Samoa or Borneo. The commiefornia KGB confiscates "em all. Among many other places. I think it's only Hawaii and flahriduh which we can receive from.

Edited April 27, 2020 by GottmitAlex

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/27/2020 at 2:42 AM, Xenon said:

Truly bizarre the (almost) complete lack of coconuts in the RGV, especially in southeastern Cameron and southern Hidalgo county where there are unprotected 15+ year old specimens. Royals and foxtails sell like hotcakes. Royals dominate any sort of new development in the McAllen metro and have clearly surpassed queens in popularity to be the #1 pinnate palm.  In some neighborhoods they are almost overplanted.  Even things like bottle palms are several orders of magnitude more common than the elusive coconut. 

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Hey Jonathan,

I have wanted to fill that niche for years, if I had the means to do so.  I would love to have an all organic palm and tropical plant nursery in Brownsville and sell hundreds of Coconut Palms there every year of various varieties that I think would do well there.  I think the local nurseries are really missing the boat on this one by not supplying that need there.  There certainly is a LOT more demand for them than there are sources for them in the Valley.

John

[Mr. Coconut Palm]

  On 4/27/2020 at 3:11 AM, Meangreen94z said:

At that point it was Marine Engineering. 

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I had a roommate for a while there that was a Marine Engineering major.

[Meangreen94z]

That campus has changed rapidly in the last 5 years or so. I’m not sure if they received substantial funds after Hurricane Ike, but a few years after a new building went up across the road in the dunes(which I thought was protected...but mostly served as a dumpsite anyways), the main portion of the dorms were torn down and rebuilt as something else, etc.  I’ve driven by but really haven’t stopped to walk around since the last of my friends left over 15 years ago.

[NOT A TA]

  On 4/27/2020 at 3:23 AM, GottmitAlex said:

Among many other places. I think it's only Hawaii and flahriduh which we can receive from.

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I've tried searching around on the web in USPS regulations etc. and can't find much info. I'd like to start shipping coconuts and/or sprouted nuts within the USA but it's not worth getting in any trouble for the small money involved. Anyone know where to find regulations on what's allowed or not for all types of palm seeds in the USA? I know there's been occasionally been mention that CA and Hawaii have some special rules.

[GottmitAlex]

  On 4/27/2020 at 3:52 AM, NOT A TA said:

I've tried searching around on the web in USPS regulations etc. and can't find much info. I'd like to start shipping coconuts and/or sprouted nuts within the USA but it's not worth getting in any trouble for the small money involved. Anyone know where to find regulations on what's allowed or not for all types of palm seeds in the USA? I know there's been occasionally been mention that CA and Hawaii have some special rules.

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And TX....