Are Foxy Lady palms sterile?

[Tracy]

So I am curious if Foxy Lady Palms are fertile?  This was acquired as a Foxy Lady, but the trunk is different than one of my other ones in that it doesn't have the bulge from the Wodyetia bifurcata parent.  The one I'm growing in Leucadia is from the same source and purchased about the same time, as this and another "Foxy Lady" I have.  The Leucadia one is unique in that its the only one that has the bulge about 1/3 the way up the trunk much as my true Wodyetia bifurcata which makes me also wonder if the inflorescence I'm about to see on this one in the photograph is from a regular Veitchia arecina.  What is the scoop?

[Neil C]

I believe most of the time the seeds never germinate but very occasionally they do.

Regards Neil

[joe_OC]

Floribunda had some f2 foxy ladies a while ago.  Not very common, but it can happen?

[Silas_Sancona]

The only mature ( and flowering /seeding ) specimens i'm currently familiar with are those in Kopsick's collection. While the largest would flower & produce seed often, most seed i'd collect were empty or basically liquid when opened. I had one attempt germinating but ended up rotting before it could get going. As mentioned in other Foxy - related threads, I think @Zeeth may have successfully gotten one to germinate off the same specimen though.  Hard to say if it ( or the other " Green"  Foxy Lady there ) were self fertile though since they all are located fairly close to the collection's collection of Veitchia.  Never noticed seed on the variegated Foxy located in another part of the collection. 

If this one produces seed, you should be able to tell if they have a chance.. Most of the seed off the Kopsick Foxy L's that were infertile were fairly light compared to potentially good seeds ( noticeably heavier )

On a side note, While it never crossed my mind at the time, i have wondered if some of the seed on the nearby  Veitchia could have been crossed w/ pollen from either of the Foxys.

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[Darold Petty]

F2 is not reliable to show the same characteristics as the F1 parent.  Read this, especially the section 'Disadvantages'.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_hybrid

 

[Zeeth]

17 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

The only mature ( and flowering /seeding ) specimens i'm currently familiar with are those in Kopsick's collection. While the largest would flower & produce seed often, most seed i'd collect were empty or basically liquid when opened. I had one attempt germinating but ended up rotting before it could get going. As mentioned in other Foxy - related threads, I think @Zeeth may have successfully gotten one to germinate off the same specimen though.  Hard to say if it ( or the other " Green"  Foxy Lady there ) were self fertile though since they all are located fairly close to the collection's collection of Veitchia.  Never noticed seed on the variegated Foxy located in another part of the collection. 

If this one produces seed, you should be able to tell if they have a chance.. Most of the seed off the Kopsick Foxy L's that were infertile were fairly light compared to potentially good seeds ( noticeably heavier )

On a side note, While it never crossed my mind at the time, i have wondered if some of the seed on the nearby  Veitchia could have been crossed w/ pollen from either of the Foxys.

Yeah I had one sprout a while back but had some irrigation issues to my potted plants in my absence and it ended up drying out and dying. Ken Johnson showed me a mature F₂ Foxy lady once though so I know it's possible. 

[sgvcns]

Well mine has a sparse seed set that dropped today.

Lots of Veitchia traits but an interesting yellow trunk for about a meter below the crownshaft.

I'll cut one open to look for an embryo.

Suspect sterile

Steve

[sgvcns]

Sterile but was only 2nd flowering

Steve