Hey guys, 

While at a nursery here today I came across a 3 gallon Butia and picked it up. 

The fronds seem to spiral clockwise which is weird, and twist a little. 

It also appears blue/glaucous to me.

Thoughts? Is this odorata? It was labeled capitata but we all know about that. 

 

Nice find.  I'm not a id expert.   That should do much better in your zone.

Most Butia palms in the USA are mutts (odorata x yatay etc.)

Hi 87˚, Lo 51˚

Edited March 8, 20206 yr by Tom in Tucson

Butias are quite variable.  Nice color on yours - here's one I recently purchased:

 

very nice @Fusca thats big for a 3 gallon

8 hours ago, Fusca said:

Butias are quite variable.  Nice color on yours - here's one I recently purchased:

 

That has houston garden centers written all over it. They were giving these away a couple months ago , back to full price now 

Thank God for HGC!

I want to be around when my local garden center is giving them away. Nice!

Sadly mine wasn't free haha $32 locally.

17 minutes ago, Dartolution said:

Sadly mine wasn't free haha $32 locally.

That's a good deal =) 

1 hour ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

That has houston garden centers written all over it. They were giving these away a couple months ago , back to full price now 

You got it!  

21 minutes ago, Dartolution said:

Sadly mine wasn't free haha $32 locally.

This was a 7-gal for $21 (@70% off) back in September.  Bluest one I could find.

40 minutes ago, jimmyt said:

Thank God for HGC!

Indeed!

Edited March 9, 20206 yr by Fusca

10 hours ago, Fusca said:

You got it!  

This was a 7-gal for $21 (@70% off) back in September.  Bluest one I could find.

Indeed!

Now you guys are just rubbing it in.

5 hours ago, Manalto said:

Now you guys are just rubbing it in.

They're definitely a "big box" garden center getting palms/plants in bulk, then marking them down to clear them out before Christmas trees take over.  Same plant is $70 right now so I usually don't get my palms from them at this time of the year!

Here is another picture of it today while outside. The fronds twist and curl. Is that normal?

6 hours ago, Dartolution said:

Here is another picture of it today while outside. The fronds twist and curl. Is that normal?

 

Yep. Some do it more then others. But that's pretty typical. 

20 hours ago, Fusca said:

They're definitely a "big box" garden center getting palms/plants in bulk, then marking them down to clear them out before Christmas trees take over.  Same plant is $70 right now so I usually don't get my palms from them at this time of the year!

Houston Garden Centers are kind of like Sears was. They always claim they are having a sale, the discount is just variable. Usually 50-75% on most plants, other rarer stuff maybe 25% off. I dont think I’ve ever been there and seen everything at full price 

Best picture yet in front of the red clay soil I have. 

Pardon the mess behind it. I am in the process of rebuilding a pondless waterfall and landscaping the back left corner of the back yard. 

Im actually kinda digging it there... hmmm 

Yeah, it looks great. If it’s showing blue/silver at that size, it most definitely will be as an adult.

UPDATE!

 

Planted my Butia baby yesterday. 

Here is a picture of it after planting. 

 

 

Edited April 2, 20206 yr by Dartolution
added image

Very nice waterfall you did there. The Butia goes perfectly with it! 

Waterfall looks great - care to swing by my place??

Thanks @Chester B and @James760. Thats only the top right corner of the water feature. 

I will probably post pictures of everything once things begin to fill in.

I will have a lot of detail and edge work to do. 

Just a fun update on my Butia since I've been updating most all other threads I have. 

I suppose its settled because growth has suddenly picked up over the last couple of weeks.

I think it's the heat.  Mine in a pot just started going bonkers.   Nice looking palm.

@Allen Thanks! Most likely so. We've had a long cool spring this year. The first "actual spring" that I can recall in my lifetime. 

 

Updated picture from today: 

great looking plant!

 

i meant to say hi over on the banana forum!

 

i have a similar looking plant except mine had a bad issue with yellowing...

i think i am slowly remedying this by adding sulphur which i read about on the forum here

thanks palmtalk!

Hey @subsonicdrone! 

This one has grown well this year and the base has grown in width as well. 

I love the blue petioles on it. 

On 3/8/2020 at 11:07 AM, Fusca said:

Butias are quite variable.  Nice color on yours - here's one I recently purchased:

 

They really are a good price. They were very silver at the one on Jones Rd. Then I figured out they had been overhead watered with a lot of lime and the the gray color scraped off. What a *bummer.

Just love this little butia I planted April 1st. 

looks like butia silver form

@climate change virginia It has vibrant blue petioles, and pretty glaucous/blue fronds. The petioles are a very vibrant blue/purple.

Probably my favorite butia, though I love Butias anyway. 

 

1 minute ago, Dartolution said:

@climate change virginia It has vibrant blue petioles, and pretty glaucous/blue fronds. The petioles are a very vibrant blue/purple.

Probably my favorite butia, though I love Butias anyway. 

 

i know butias have very nice dramatic fronds they are one of my favorite palms

Edited November 29, 20205 yr by climate change virginia

Looks Amazing by the waterfall. You think your microclimate will jump you to a 8b? will it need protection? 

On 11/29/2020 at 1:43 PM, Palmfarmer said:

Looks Amazing by the waterfall. You think your microclimate will jump you to a 8b? will it need protection? 

@Palmfarmer Supposedly, the silver/blue form of Butia Odorata? is the cold hardiest for odorata/capitata. I think. haha

So far its seen 2 nights at 23 for 12 hours below freezing, 1 night at 27 for 12 hrs below freezing, and another at 30 for 8 hrs.  

If we have an arctic blast I will likely protect it otherwise Im leaving it be. 

Eriospatha is leaf hardier than odorata by a degree or two. Odorata is a degree or so hardier than the catarensis commonly found in florida.  Blue odorata is hardier than the greener odorata which I don't know how or why ir happens but they are.  

On 12/6/2020 at 11:33 AM, Dartolution said:

@Palmfarmer Supposedly, the silver/blue form of Butia Odorata? is the cold hardiest for odorata/capitata. I think. haha

So far its seen 2 nights at 23 for 12 hours below freezing, 1 night at 27 for 12 hrs below freezing, and another at 30 for 8 hrs.  

If we have an arctic blast I will likely protect it otherwise Im leaving it be. 

That is great. Mine is also blue, not sure what type of butia it is though. They look so tropical and is so hardy at the same time. What other stuff do you have in your collection? by the way do you have any experience with palms in Mobile, Alabama? What would grow there, Bismarckias possible? looks like a great place

On 11/27/2020 at 10:03 PM, Dartolution said:

Just love this little butia I planted April 1st. 

Love it!   Def love the Blue/ silver ones.   You should zoom out for a wide shot of the whole corner!  Looks great!     Do you think it will ever outgrow that corner?  i know they are slower growers, but their trunks do get pretty FAT. 

A little over a year update. 

From 3 gallon to ... Id say 7 gallon at this point in a years time. 

Sailed through 16F and 36 hours below freezing this winter. 

11 minutes ago, Dartolution said:

Sailed through 16F and 36 hours below freezing this winter. 

You might just have yourself a microclimate there. Local Butia have varying degree of freeze damage around here. Palm looks great I imagine it may outgrow that spot a lil 

T J