Yucca love

[amh]

2 minutes ago, Meangreen94z said:

This page specifically seems to have stretched out excessively. I’m guessing it’s number of posts not the size of the posts that triggers a new page.

I think it's somewhere between 30 to 40 replies per page. The size of the post might matter, but I think everyone will agree that we really enjoy your photos. So don't stop. 

[amh]

Here are a few pictures of the glaucus Yucca treculeana. This yucca is more blue in person, which means this is another plant to pollinate once it flowers. Before anyone asks, I do not have natural pollinators in my area.

[miamicuse]

How big is the root structure of a yucca rostrata?

Is it much bigger/wider than the trunk of the plant?  How big can it get?  If it is near a concrete or brick border can it crack/move it?

[Palmensammler]

Hi all,

New arrivals, hybrids of Y. aloifolia with schottii, glauca, thompsoniana and karlsruhensis x recurvifolia and one LZ2083 "Valley of Fires" NM x thompsoniana.

All done by an Austrian guy. Currently they are suffering a little bit because of the transport via Hand-luggage from Austria to Germany.

Will decide which one will be planted outside next year.

Some more hybrids to arrive soon.

Happy growing.

Eckhard

 

[Rivera]

On 3/19/2023 at 7:07 PM, miamicuse said:

How big is the root structure of a yucca rostrata?

Is it much bigger/wider than the trunk of the plant?  How big can it get?  If it is near a concrete or brick border can it crack/move it?

I'm no yucca expert, but I've dug yucca rostrata out of a big container for relocation and its root system seemed to like to spread. Many yucca are reputed to be adept at finding water, so subterranean exploration would be beneficial. 

Here, I generally see yucca rostrata as an unbranched plant under 8' tall. If they branch and get large where you live, the mass of the plant could bust your mortar joints. I wouldn't associate most monocot roots themselves with that kind of destruction though, more the above ground mass of a very large yucca, especially one that undergoes a lot of secondary stem growth. I think the roots are more likely to work their way around obstacles than exert a lot of pressure on them like thick dicot roots can.

[Silas_Sancona]

46 minutes ago, Rivera said:

I'm no yucca expert, but I've dug yucca rostrata out of a big container for relocation and its root system seemed to like to spread. Many yucca are reputed to be adept at finding water, so subterranean exploration would be beneficial. 

Here, I generally see yucca rostrata as an unbranched plant under 8' tall. If they branch and get large where you live, the mass of the plant could bust your mortar joints. I wouldn't associate most monocot roots themselves with that kind of destruction though, more the above ground mass of a very large yucca, especially one that undergoes a lot of secondary stem growth. I think the roots are more likely to work their way around obstacles than exert a lot of pressure on them like thick dicot roots can.

Agree.. In the case of rostrata ..some others that stay fairly skinny through their life, they shouldn't create issues if planted near a house / concrete surfaces ( See them planted in such restricted planting areas in landscapes here fairly often )

It is the big boys.. ...Like Y. guatemalensis / gigantea, which can form MASSIVE bases, that can really screw up foundations / concrete / paved surfaces  ...more because of the trunk mass, than really thick roots ( Though they probably have thicker roots as well, compared to "tamer" Yucca sps like rostrata, elata, etc which don't become 6ft wide giants at their bases )

[Silas_Sancona]

A few Oak Flat 'nanner Yucca ( Y. baccata ) w/a Cylindropuntia imbracta  in the first shot..

[Silas_Sancona]

Random, nice Yucca specimens i pass quite often, but had yet to stop and get pictures of / investigate until today.. Mainly trunking Banana Yucca, and ..what sure looks a lot like a Joshua.. ( Y. brevifolia ) Only one i've personally seen planted on this side of town.











In this particular shot, if i said i took this somewhere closer to the AZ / CA border, chances are someone might believe me based on the perceived " mountains" in the background.. That " mountain" is actually a long, tall mound of Mulch ..or recycled Asphalt.. topping a fence. Using a little, not -so-far-fetched imagination, can see how it might look like mountains hovering above an expanse of flatter desert, off in the distance though.

[Jubaea_James760]

Was on a little hike to photograph Agave Utahensis var eborispina in habitat but no luck. Took some random shots of some of the natives in southern Nevada desert. 

Pretty sure this is Yucca schidigera

Rest unknown, One is a barrel cactus of some sort? I'm a super novice in this category 

 

[Meangreen94z]

27 minutes ago, Jubaea_James760 said:

Was on a little hike to photograph Agave Utahensis var eborispina in habitat but no luck. Took some random shots of some of the natives in southern Nevada desert. 

Pretty sure this is Yucca schidigera

Rest unknown, One is a barrel cactus of some sort? I'm a super novice in this category 

 

Nice. They look like variants of Ferocactus cylindraceus and Echinocereus engelmannii? 

[Silas_Sancona]

22 minutes ago, Jubaea_James760 said:

Was on a little hike to photograph Agave Utahensis var eborispina in habitat but no luck. Took some random shots of some of the natives in southern Nevada desert. 

Pretty sure this is Yucca schidigera

Rest unknown, One is a barrel cactus of some sort? I'm a super novice in this category 

 

Nice shots..  Last two pictures are Echinocereus ..likely englemanii, though not sure which variety of the species.  Pretty sure i see a California Barrel or two, but there could be some Cottontop Cactus, Homalocephala polycephala (  two shots directly below the Yucca ).. Younger CA Barrels can look similar, clustered specimens esp. Great stuff regardless.  Hopefully you'll find  Eborispina specimens  on the next walkabout..

[Silas_Sancona]

1 minute ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Nice shots..  Last two pictures are Echinocereus ..likely englemanii, though not sure which variety of the species.  Pretty sure i see a California Barrel or two, but there could be some Cottontop Cactus, Homalocephala polycephala (  two shots directly below the Yucca ).. Younger CA Barrels can look similar, clustered specimens esp. Great stuff regardless.  Hopefully you'll find  Eborispina specimens  on the next walkabout..

Fyi, Now that you've started the dive into seeing stuff in habitat, get used to wanting to get out to find new stuff -as much as is possible..  ...Staring at any hillside you drive past wondering " What could be growing up there " 

[Meangreen94z]

Yucca rostrata, faxoniana, and torreyi in Black Gap WMA. Dasylirion leiophyllum and others.

[Jubaea_James760]

@Meangreen94z, amazing photos! That area is super lush with Yucca. Beautiful flowers on those cacti.

@Silas_Sancona, lol, your absolutely right. I'm already thinking of little adventures & places I'd like to investigate 😁

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, Jubaea_James760 said:

@Meangreen94z, amazing photos! That area is super lush with Yucca. Beautiful flowers on those cacti.

@Silas_Sancona, lol, your absolutely right. I'm already thinking of little adventures & places I'd like to investigate 😁

Just be ready.  Little, " closer to home / day trips " will quickly turn to .." ...How far is it to get to X location, lol..  Regardless, as i'm sure you have seen via some of my own adventures, be prepared for pretty much anything while out..

While you may have a certain target / targets in mind on a given trip, expect overall  plant ID " knowledge " to quickly expand as well..  ...and to constantly be pondering thoughts regarding how everything is connected..  ...and to enjoy that time away from everything, even if just for a few hours..

Aside from looking for neat stuff,  that " chance to get away from the daily hustle and clear ones thoughts for a moment or two " is very rewarding.. Except when a tire goes flat, or the camera battery dies, half way through your trip, haha.

[Meangreen94z]

4 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Just be ready.  Little, " closer to home / day trips " will quickly turn to .." ...How far is it to get to X location, lol..  Regardless, as i'm sure you have seen via some of my own adventures, be prepared for pretty much anything while out..

While you may have a certain target / targets in mind on a given trip, expect overall  plant ID " knowledge " to quickly expand as well..  ...and to constantly be pondering thoughts regarding how everything is connected..  ...and to enjoy that time away from everything, even if just for a few hours..

Aside from looking for neat stuff,  that " chance to get away from the daily hustle and clear ones thoughts for a moment or two " is very rewarding.. Except when a tire goes flat, or the camera battery dies, half way through your trip, haha.

You end up trying to find a way to fit an 8 hour trip each way into a 3 day weekend.😄

[Silas_Sancona]

48 minutes ago, Meangreen94z said:

You end up trying to find a way to fit an 8 hour trip each way into a 3 day weekend.😄

Cake walk..  Try San Jose to San Diego, ...and back, ...in a day  ..or  San Jose to Topeka KS in under 16 hours..  Stop just long enough to get gas.  That's it.

[Meangreen94z]

2 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Cake walk..  Try San Jose to San Diego, ...and back, ...in a day  ..or  San Jose to Topeka KS in under 16 hours..  Stop just long enough to get gas.  That's it.

I’m sure the drive is great up until you leave Colorado, but I don’t think you would get much of a chance to take things in? 

[Silas_Sancona]

12 minutes ago, Meangreen94z said:

I’m sure the drive is great up until you leave Colorado, but I don’t think you would get much of a chance to take things in? 

For that trip,  ...and pretty much every trip taken back and forth across the country,  took I 10..  Pretty sure i made quick stops in Flagstaff,  New Mexico, and again in Oklahoma for a few minutes on the return trip to KS.  For me, main goal during most trips is getting from point A to B as quickly as possible w/ the least amounts of stops. 

[AzulPalmsAZ]

My two Yucca Rostrata showing off for spring 

[Aleks]

On 04.08.2021 at 00:15, Palmensammler said:

Всем привет,

помимо девственного самоопыления моей Yucca karlsruhensis x "Elena Star", похоже, что я, наконец, смог самостоятельно создать гибрид. Растут два плода юкки (филаментоза "Karthausgarten" x rostrata) x (филаментоза "Hairy" x elata). Я надеюсь, что эти два плода созреют до тех пор, пока они, наконец, не будут достойны того, чтобы их можно было собрать, и несут достаточно семян, пригодных для распространения этого креста.

Y. karlsruhensis x "Елена Стар"

Y. (филаментоза "Karthausgarten" x rostrata) x (филаментоза "Hairy" x elata)

Моя зависимость от юкки может продолжаться...

Экхард

Hello.  What is their frost resistance?

[Palmensammler]

I'm living in a Zone 7b and they already survived -15°C. I think the cold temps are not as important as the wet winters and the older plants did fine for the last years. For the seedlings I expect the same. They are not planted out yet

Eckhard 

[Silas_Sancona]

One- Big- Yucca...  Impressive Cereus and Tall / Skinny Ocotillo specimens aren't bad either. 

Don'ttoo much.



 

[Palmensammler]

Amazing plants, what a wonderful picture 

Eckhard 

[teddytn]

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

One- Big- Yucca...  Impressive Cereus and Tall / Skinny Ocotillo specimens aren't bad either. 

Don'ttoo much.



 

Unreal!!! What species of yucca is that?!?!

[Silas_Sancona]

33 minutes ago, teddytn said:

Unreal!!! What species of yucca is that?!?!

99% sure it is Y. rigida   but leaving myself an opening for another suggestion. Definitely an impressive specimen, esp. in a typical yard setting.

[teddytn]

40 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

99% sure it is Y. rigida   but leaving myself an opening for another suggestion. Definitely an impressive specimen, esp. in a typical yard setting.

That’s seriously an understatement. Sometimes hard to gage the extent of a mature specimen of any plant type in a pic, especially when there’s other big plants around. Using the house for scale, the amount of active and spent flower stalks, and the fact multiple people could take a siesta in the shade it casts….idk may be the most impressive yucca I’ve ever seen. Had no idea a rigida could get so big. Thank you for posting! 🙏🏻🤩

[Meangreen94z]

3 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

One- Big- Yucca...  Impressive Cereus and Tall / Skinny Ocotillo specimens aren't bad either. 

Don'ttoo much.



 

Nice find. 

That would be Yucca thompsoniana . In the wild between Fort Stockton and Marathon, Texas they usually split off into a few trunks at most, but in cultivation with water they grow like that.

habitat:Austin, Texas:

[Meangreen94z]

The specimen that have Yucca rostrata mixed in grow taller but can multitrunk as well.

[Silas_Sancona]

1 hour ago, Meangreen94z said:

Nice find. 

That would be Yucca thompsoniana . In the wild between Fort Stockton and Marathon, Texas they usually split off into a few trunks at most, but in cultivation with water they grow like that.

habitat:Austin, Texas:

Possible, but not certain..

[Meangreen94z]

You’re right, it could be a hybrid or something else. You guys in Phoenix and Tucson get all kinds of cool stuff. Yucca thompsoniana that doesn’t have rostrata mixed in has rigid leaves that can be surprisingly blue, similar to rigida but not quite as silver.

Here is your picture closer in:

Here are a couple other local examples:

Here is a closeup of that one previously posted on a sunny day:

 

[teddytn]

10 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Possible, but not certain..

 

11 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Nice find. 

That would be Yucca thompsoniana . In the wild between Fort Stockton and Marathon, Texas they usually split off into a few trunks at most, but in cultivation with water they grow like that.

habitat:Austin, Texas:

The diameter of the heads should give a good indicator I would think. Purer thompsoniana is supposed to have pretty small heads even when mature? 

[Silas_Sancona]

17 hours ago, teddytn said:

 

The diameter of the heads should give a good indicator I would think. Pure-er thompsoniana is supposed to have pretty small heads even when mature? 

Thinking the same, which this one doesn't have ( Aren't massive either ) so ..Jury is out. 

[Meangreen94z]

On 4/29/2023 at 5:56 AM, teddytn said:

 

The diameter of the heads should give a good indicator I would think. Purer thompsoniana is supposed to have pretty small heads even when mature? 

It’s all relative, but Yucca rostrata is typically wider. My Yucca thompsoniana is 19-20” vs. a comparable rostrata at 28”. There are only a few Yucca that branch off that rapidly at a low height, the only comparable species in appearance is maybe Yucca periculosa. But even those are distinctly different.

[Silas_Sancona]

Some recent bloomers..

Another could be Y. thompsoniana ..or could be something else..



Y. elata



Impressive mass planting of Y. rigida in a relatively newer housing development.. Now rip out the ugly Fountain grass and plant some interesting trees instead ..Behind the Yucca " grove "

[Silas_Sancona]

Figures, lol.. " Roam around random neighborhood, find another monster "..  🤣

No idea what this one could be.. To me, leaves look too long / individual flowers too large for Y. elata. Very attention getting, whatever it is. Has a " Beucarnea  / Ponytail Palm  look " to it. Note the Utility Pegs between the Yucca and Sago ( Pretty beastly itself ) in the first shot ( Esp. ), compared to the flower stalks

[Josue Diaz]

Does hesperoyucca count? This is H. whipplei in habitat at Sequoia National Park in California. This species occurs from about 1000 ft to about 6000 ft in elevation. Also, a mountain lion track along our walk  they are very common here

[Silas_Sancona]

6 minutes ago, Josue Diaz said:

Does hesperoyucca count? This is H. whipplei in habitat at Sequoia National Park in California. This species occurs from about 1000 ft to about 6000 ft in elevation. Also, a mountain lion track along our walk  they are very common here

Counts for sure..   Post 'em if you got more..

....Now to figure out what the foot print belongs to, lol.

[Rivera]

I just can't get Yucca rostrata to move here in our cool summers. It's in the warmest sunniest area of the yard and gets summer water, but it's so ungodly slow. Puts out roots, but so very few new leaves.

I'm not this much of a glutton for punishment. Never seen a big one in my ocean side neighborhood, but the SF botanical garden does have some head-high or larger branchless plants that appear healthy. Yucca guatemalensis grows easily all over the west side of the city, but it's a very different plant.

Dasylirion longissimum sulks similarly here, new growth just barely keeping ahead of the declining outer leaves. Both plants seem to suffer salt burn (1/8 mile from the sea), but might not mind it so much if they actually grew. 

I have young Cereus or Aloe that may actually grow in this spot. Despite great potential, I live in a concrete-rich, horticulturally starved neighborhood, so I have to do my own experimentation sometimes. 

[teddytn]

Yucca rigida looking fantastic this year. Had 2 faxoniana’s survive this past winters below zero temps. This one’s main head spear pulled bad in early spring, and then put out 4 pups. I’ll take it!Wasn't sure on yucca harminae’s hardiness especially when young. Planted it straight out of the mail from coldhardycactus. Most people know the size you receive 😬. Survived 100% unscathed. Triple the size now